A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

This is my and the responses from the action of banned from sites. People who have answered my asking if they knew of things. And messages back and forth. Names and sites have been removed to not point or give directions time and dates are left to see the flow of it. The bottom line is none but a few of the ‘befriended’ in the Ningverse have typed to me to ask and have answers given.

Many it seems closed their minds and do not want to ask or learn difference of social stereotypical ideas and the actually of one person. Below you will find some of the messages written to me from others. Some are those who this action has been taken by. Others finding things out and the general concern of why and how come.

I asked of a banning massage sent to me. It referenced other sites I am on other adim and others talked to. But because of that asking to find if anyone knew of it or was part of it. I have been banned off three more sites. And it seems several people do not read things for they thought is was a personal attack or I was banning them or threatening to or accusing them. Which it was not just a asking of help to know where this came from and if any knew of it.

No I did what I do ask if any one knew of or about things. And found only three that had an idea. But got lots of do not know or what or why.

Guess that does not work in the Ningverse. Instead all just fly off to their own separate corners and can type anything they want of any one they do not agree with them and make it as if correct.

Instead of typing me asking me and learning the of me.

Judged sentenced and executing of sentence commenced.


(2009-07-30 17:46:57) Ning = *******: you there? sorry it took so long to get back!
(2009-07-30 17:47:05) Ning = *******: I have a response from Peter know it all!
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Ning = *******: He said the following:
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Traveler: you do what is need
(2009-07-30 17:47:17) Ning = *******: Merry Meet.,
We have facts from other sites as well as ours. You are not an admin or a creator of a site. So we can not share the info with you. You can contact Ning, they have factual reports on him. So its not just us. You may leave the site if you want, We owe you no explanation on this. His profile was fine. He was caught spamming kiddies porn, on several sites, not just ours.Blessed Be your path Peter I consider this matter closed. He was given an explanation, why he was banned from me, several admin's, and other sites that banned him. We can't help that he ignores these messages
(2009-07-30 17:48:04) Traveler: now that is news to me. Don't you have a site?
(2009-07-30 17:48:11) Ning = *******: yes I do
(2009-07-30 17:48:15) Ning = *******: apparently, asshole doesn't REALIZE that!
(2009-07-30 17:49:06) Traveler: um how does one get a copy of the ning thing? as site person request it?
(2009-07-30 17:50:21) Ning = *******: not sure. looking into it now
(2009-07-30 17:51:09) Traveler: ok then and how does one cautch one doing this? and how proves it is the person there id theft? cut paste use some one profile?
(2009-07-30 17:52:39) Traveler: never asked me of this nor has anyone ever typed of this before
(2009-07-30 17:53:24) Ning = *******: well, I have the HELP tab open now for Ning. I am about to check it out.
(2009-07-30 17:53:53) Traveler: sick um
17:56
(2009-07-30 17:59:18) Ning = *******: this is what I have said to the Ning Helpdesk:
(2009-07-30 17:59:23) Ning = *******: I have been informed that several ning administrators and creators have banned a person going by the name of Traveler. They have attacked him without cause and accuse him of all sorts of things that he is innocent of. I have had NO trouble with this person. He is actually QUITE intelligent and has alot to offer as a member. He is being banned without warning, not given the chance to defend himself, and now Peter J. Brown, who has accused ME of not being a site creator and therefore "unworthy" of being given information on WHYthis man was banned, has accused Traveler of child porn, which he has told me he is NOT into in the least. He is not being given fair treatment and I, as a site creator, would like to know WHY he has been singled out like this! I should like one of you to get in touch with me AND Traveler so that his side of the story can be revealed and this persecution be stopped! I am FURIOUS that this is going on at a site that up until now I have had quite a great time on! I talk to Traveler every day and know him to NOT be the kind of person Peter has accused him of! I want this to be handled in as direct a way as possible! Thank you. *******
(2009-07-30 18:00:46) Traveler: I bow my head and softly thank you little one
(2009-07-30 18:01:01) Ning = *******: bows back You are quite welcome!
(2009-07-30 18:01:16) Ning = *******: I mean what I say, as well! I am APPALLED that this is going on!
(2009-07-30 18:01:39) Traveler: I am currently copy past the messages that I have upon this.
(2009-07-30 18:02:09) Traveler: I have been accused of things before but nothing like this
(2009-07-30 18:02:23) Traveler: THen I could walk up and face the person
(2009-07-30 18:02:40) Traveler: Here there is not I can do to do so.
(2009-07-30 18:04:27) Ning = *******: add this:
(2009-07-30 18:04:31) Ning = *******: You are not privy to any complaints, or otherwise.
I have told you its had nothing to do with his profile at all! one of best friends is into BDSM, and I still love her. We won't to answer your questions, but we respect the privacy of the sites and members, with factual complaints him, also from ning itself. Again, I say it had nothing to do with his profile!!!!! Blessed Be,
(2009-07-30 18:04:50) Traveler: reading to Isabell will get here
(2009-07-30 18:06:17) Ning = *******: Aparently, he is saying NIng has "factual reports" on you!
(2009-07-30 18:06:59) Traveler: what are factual reports?
(2009-07-30 18:07:30) Traveler: Isabell asks where did they come from
(2009-07-30 18:07:46) Ning = *******: these two came from Peter J. Brown
(2009-07-30 18:08:02) Ning = *******: creator of The Craft ning site
(2009-07-30 18:08:51) Traveler: Iwas on that site less than 24 hours and asked if he wanted the practitioner pictures whe he responed ok to
(2009-07-30 18:09:00) Ning = *******: I honestly thing he is full of shit!
(2009-07-30 18:09:24) Traveler: that is insulting to the shit
(2009-07-30 18:09:26) Ning = *******: think I mean
(2009-07-30 18:09:29) Ning = *******: :)
(2009-07-30 18:09:33) Ning = *******: true
(2009-07-30 18:09:34) Traveler: nope
(2009-07-30 18:10:23) Ning = *******: he is arrogant in his attitude though and as far as I'M concerned, he is heading for a fall
(2009-07-30 18:10:59) Traveler: wait till I get this all placed into one place.
(2009-07-30 18:14:07) Traveler: Do you think he would be awoken when he finds the Artist site?
(2009-07-30 18:14:49) Ning = *******: I have no idea. I think I'm about to be banned from THIS site though!
(2009-07-30 18:14:56) Ning = *******: My latest rebuttal:
(2009-07-30 18:15:00) Ning = *******: You claimed I had no right to know the situation because I am not a ning creator but I AM so I DO have the right to know what is going on. I HAVE asked Ning about this and I promise you I will look into it thoroughly. He has been singled out without a SHRED of proof other than people don't know like profile while someone who has STALKED no less than TWO women on the ning site is allowed to continue with his activities! You may ban me if you will. I care not! I was asking NICELY but have only gotten derision and arrogance in return. I WILL get to the bottom of this and if there IS something that he has done wrong, then I will apolegize but if there is NOT, then I suggest you learn humility.
(2009-07-30 18:15:46) Ning = *******: I ask you to include THIS as well with your other notes, just so one of us has them all. :D
(2009-07-30 18:16:00) Traveler: fang and claw I need you to sic people more he he he
(2009-07-30 18:16:08) Ning = *******: LOL
(2009-07-30 18:16:11) Ning = *******: bows
(2009-07-30 18:16:17) Ning = *******: brb

Ok this is as now for it ms tlikely will continue you decide am I what they accuse me of was this done incorrectly do people read and jump to worse ideas do other read and have no clue up what they have been asked. Many thing no pointing no saying bad members. This is what has been sent and stored. Let it stand as is. I am letting people know what has happened and I do. I do not hide I face.

Wow look at what happened when asked further of this matter: (2009-07-30 18:57:49) You are not privy to the information You are not a member of the Conglomeration of site owners and admin.'s. Nor an admin., here. There are reports on you, also for the same thing, it comes from a member of Wiccan Togther and Ning itself. THIS MATTER IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS I SAID, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PROFILE, AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS SIIE, IF YOU LIKE? I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU, YOU ARE BLATANTLY BEING DIREPECTFUL AND IT IS NOTED, AND YOUR MESSAGE HAVE BEN SENT TO NING, AND THE CONGLOMERATION. YOU KEEP SAYING ITS BECAUSE OF THE BDSM ON HIS PROFITE, I HAVE COSISTANTLY TOLD YOU THAT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! YOU WILL NOT LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! Blessed be Your Path, PETER PS. YES I'M YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

blog‏
From: Knight King ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 7/31/09 5:15 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Knight King has sent you a message on MANY FRIENDSHIPS 2

traveler all it takes is one seed to feed weak minds. You are correct in the way you state how people judge. I live near a community of sanctimonious assholes. A prejudice little town of people who gossip and embellish upon half truths and out and out fabrications. Oh yes they will make up and entire tale if it fits their agenda. The people plaguing you here at ning are no match for these people I speak of. There are some rotten ass people in the world. Some would say I am one, my enemies. kk
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:39:06 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Karen, Dvorah, Knight King
>
> I know not of most things but what the world has taught me I have learned well. I am learning here that few very few will ask me things. Many though will not and place stereotypical values upon me. Or find a way to rid me from their sites for I do not conform or fit into the box they think I belong in on the shelf. Seems many still want the blinders on and not look at the world.
>
> No longer reading for content just skimming and find in words that make a response. Good or bad they focus on bad mostly of tht is all the world now seems to want. So by not fully reading and just picking what one wants the thoughts most have are not fully developed or based on other then their minds.
>
> To keep the peace it is easier to remove and get rid of what is ruffling feathers causing waves. Than to explain show teach and have people learn. For most do not want their world changed. As long as it is not them it does not matter. But if it is them then the world MUST take notice.
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:59:21 +0000
> > From: Karen
> > To: Traveler, Knight King, Dvorah
> >
> > HEY ALL
> >
> > KK, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE GROUP?? I SPOKE YOU ON PHONE & TOLD YOU HE IS A NICE GUY TRAVELER & I EVEN SPOKE......ON PHONE WHAT HAPPENED.......
> >
> > ONE THING I HAVE SAID SINCE 1998 .........PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN TO READ.......:) & IF THEY DON'T BEFORE THEY ANSWER & ACCUSE THEY SHOULD TAKE TIME

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Comment by Linda L. Alley on July 31, 2009 at 5:04pm
It seems you have more than enough friends on your side, Traveler. Thus far, no one has asked me about you. I will check Pride to see what is there. I did Not ban you. You left willingly. As I know you, child porn is NOT something you do. If anyone does contact me about it, I will defend you for it is a serious wrong that has been done to you.

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Question‏
From: Lady Anastasia ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 7/31/09 9:20 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Anastasia has sent you a message on PaganMystics Community

Hi, I'm sorry if the request seems out of line, but I do think it comes down to content.

While I feel that your profile is your profile, and you can post what you wish to on it, some of the content, when you speak about your private life, aspects of BDSM, etc. It isn't what I'd call appropriate for a younger member to read.

Also, as I did get through some of your blog, I know that you've been banned from other sites because of problems about said content. I'd like to avoid that completely. If your page is viewable by just those on your friends list, you'll be less likely to be attack and or harrassed about the content.

what it comes down to is this... I'm being extra cautious and asking that you make yourself only accessable to friends so that there is no chance for those types of problems to arise. I do hope you can understand my thoughts on the matter.
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:35:26 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Lady Anastasia
>
> Ok, so, this might piss you off... but, do you think you can set your profile to friends only?
>
> May I inquire why? I have done so but the why is still like to be know.


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Reason why I left The Craft‏
From: Solaris ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 7/31/09 11:21 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Solaris has sent you a message on PaganSpace.net The Social Network for the Occult Community

Greetings, Peter.

I hope you are in good spirits. I wanted to let you know the reason why I left The Craft and I have declined your invitation.

You have falsely accused my friend Traveler of several accusations. Traveler has never once disgraced or humiliated me. He has always treated me with respect, honor, and friendship. He has never once made any type of sexual remarks towards me or any of the friends we share.

Traveler is very honest and open about his lifestyle. This is something I admire about him. Yes, to you his lifestyle may not be normal, but then again like Zen, normal cannot be defined. When I was a child, I thought it was normal to be raised by a single mother until I went to school. Many of my clients thought it was normal to have the hell beaten out of them by their parents because of their illness. So what is normal? Traveler's lifestyle is a normal to me as air is to my lungs. I have no problems with it. It is his life, and he may live it as he chooses. No one has the right to judge or tell him how to live.

Because he is open about his lifestyle, many come to attack. I live in a part of the world called the Bible Belt. If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, then you are hunted down. I have had friends who DSS has taken their children because of their beliefs. I was fired from 2 jobs because of my beliefs. No it is not right, but in the state of North Carolina people get away with this everyday. What you did is no different. Did it ever occur to you to simply talk to him? Work this out between you two?

As for as children, Traveler has been blessed with 3 of his own. He will never harm a child. If there are children on a particular website, it is the responsibility of the administrators to make sure all members are aware of this.

You who claim you are better have broken the Wiccan Rede. It is only a matter of time before the threefold law goes into affect. This is why, I will not be your friend. Merry part.

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Anyone know of this?‏
From: Willow ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 7/31/09 11:23 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

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Merry Meet Traveler;



I just wanted to address your concerns with this Peter J. Brown character. First of all, it is your profile that he is purporting to be obscene? If your profile had been deemed inappropriate it would no longer be there and Admin on PS do a fairly good job of determining what is and what is not acceptable. I would pay no heed to this character, as I have no doubt that the concern should be with him and not with you.



I am familiar with this individual from Wiccan Together and to the best of my knowledge he has been banned from there! The reason would be that he was attacking members without provocation.



I say to you - consider the source! This is a person who feels that he needs to represent himself as a High Priest x's 3, and we were never able to pinpoint just what that meant! This much I can say, in my many years in the Craft, it is extremely uncommon for the genuine High Priest to have to annouce himself as such!



So take comfort in knowing that he holds no weight whatsoever in any group other than one which he himself may have formed. I would blow him off like dust from my pointy boots!



Dark Blessings my friend,



Willow
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:54:01 +0000
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[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Hi there‏
From: Kimberly Hulst ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 12:46 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Kimberly Hulst has sent you a message on Disturbia

I was reading your blog post.
I feel it would be better if you moved it to the "Ranting Group" as it is a rant.

http://lurkingdread.ning.com/group/ranting

Here is the link to the page. I know it's a group that gets missed sometimes as it's not featured at the moment.

Thank you for your understanding.

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Hi there‏
From: Kimberly Hulst ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 1:06 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Kimberly Hulst has sent you a message on Disturbia

You can split it up into two or three parts.
> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:01:40 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Kimberly Hulst
>
> It has more things typed than a discussion will allow to be posted in it
> > Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:46:39 +0000
> > From: Kimberly Hulst
> > To: Traveler
> >
> > I was reading your blog post.
> > I feel it would be better if you moved it to the "Ranting Group" as it is a rant.
> >
> > http://lurkingdread.ning.com/group/ranting
> >
> > Here is the link to the page. I know it's a group that gets missed sometimes as it's not featured at the moment.
> >
> > Thank you for your understanding.


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Reply by Donna Marie on July 31, 2009 at 9:53pm
You are a member of 2 sites besides this one that I know of at the top of my head that I administrate. I don't understand this ...I read it when it was still in your blog . I have had no complaints about you or your page on the sites. Why are you hanging your dirty laundry out here? To be heard? I believe I know Peter as well...

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Traveler Permalink Reply by Traveler on July 31, 2009 at 10:12pm
Why would a group of people that do not know me talk to me or ask of things. Why would they them tell others of a falseness and refuse to present proof when asked. Why would many sites listen to them and then when try to find things out no answers are given. I face my accusers but here on the internet they hide and mask themselves with bann delete and no answers. If they do to one then more why are they allowed to do so? IF facts are correct and true not personnel value or rumor or stereotypic not truth can one sand by and not correct and allow it to happen to others perhaps as well. I am not hanging dirty laundry. Have been asking questions, but not getting any answers. Most of what I am getting is anything But helpful. If you can help, please do