A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

This is my and the responses from the action of banned from sites. People who have answered my asking if they knew of things. And messages back and forth. Names and sites have been removed to not point or give directions time and dates are left to see the flow of it. The bottom line is none but a few of the ‘befriended’ in the Ningverse have typed to me to ask and have answers given.

Many it seems closed their minds and do not want to ask or learn difference of social stereotypical ideas and the actually of one person. Below you will find some of the messages written to me from others. Some are those who this action has been taken by. Others finding things out and the general concern of why and how come.

I asked of a banning massage sent to me. It referenced other sites I am on other adim and others talked to. But because of that asking to find if anyone knew of it or was part of it. I have been banned off three more sites. And it seems several people do not read things for they thought is was a personal attack or I was banning them or threatening to or accusing them. Which it was not just a asking of help to know where this came from and if any knew of it.

No I did what I do ask if any one knew of or about things. And found only three that had an idea. But got lots of do not know or what or why.

Guess that does not work in the Ningverse. Instead all just fly off to their own separate corners and can type anything they want of any one they do not agree with them and make it as if correct.

Instead of typing me asking me and learning the of me.

Judged sentenced and executing of sentence commenced.


(2009-07-30 17:46:57) Ning = *******: you there? sorry it took so long to get back!
(2009-07-30 17:47:05) Ning = *******: I have a response from Peter know it all!
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Ning = *******: He said the following:
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Traveler: you do what is need
(2009-07-30 17:47:17) Ning = *******: Merry Meet.,
We have facts from other sites as well as ours. You are not an admin or a creator of a site. So we can not share the info with you. You can contact Ning, they have factual reports on him. So its not just us. You may leave the site if you want, We owe you no explanation on this. His profile was fine. He was caught spamming kiddies porn, on several sites, not just ours.Blessed Be your path Peter I consider this matter closed. He was given an explanation, why he was banned from me, several admin's, and other sites that banned him. We can't help that he ignores these messages
(2009-07-30 17:48:04) Traveler: now that is news to me. Don't you have a site?
(2009-07-30 17:48:11) Ning = *******: yes I do
(2009-07-30 17:48:15) Ning = *******: apparently, asshole doesn't REALIZE that!
(2009-07-30 17:49:06) Traveler: um how does one get a copy of the ning thing? as site person request it?
(2009-07-30 17:50:21) Ning = *******: not sure. looking into it now
(2009-07-30 17:51:09) Traveler: ok then and how does one cautch one doing this? and how proves it is the person there id theft? cut paste use some one profile?
(2009-07-30 17:52:39) Traveler: never asked me of this nor has anyone ever typed of this before
(2009-07-30 17:53:24) Ning = *******: well, I have the HELP tab open now for Ning. I am about to check it out.
(2009-07-30 17:53:53) Traveler: sick um
17:56
(2009-07-30 17:59:18) Ning = *******: this is what I have said to the Ning Helpdesk:
(2009-07-30 17:59:23) Ning = *******: I have been informed that several ning administrators and creators have banned a person going by the name of Traveler. They have attacked him without cause and accuse him of all sorts of things that he is innocent of. I have had NO trouble with this person. He is actually QUITE intelligent and has alot to offer as a member. He is being banned without warning, not given the chance to defend himself, and now Peter J. Brown, who has accused ME of not being a site creator and therefore "unworthy" of being given information on WHYthis man was banned, has accused Traveler of child porn, which he has told me he is NOT into in the least. He is not being given fair treatment and I, as a site creator, would like to know WHY he has been singled out like this! I should like one of you to get in touch with me AND Traveler so that his side of the story can be revealed and this persecution be stopped! I am FURIOUS that this is going on at a site that up until now I have had quite a great time on! I talk to Traveler every day and know him to NOT be the kind of person Peter has accused him of! I want this to be handled in as direct a way as possible! Thank you. *******
(2009-07-30 18:00:46) Traveler: I bow my head and softly thank you little one
(2009-07-30 18:01:01) Ning = *******: bows back You are quite welcome!
(2009-07-30 18:01:16) Ning = *******: I mean what I say, as well! I am APPALLED that this is going on!
(2009-07-30 18:01:39) Traveler: I am currently copy past the messages that I have upon this.
(2009-07-30 18:02:09) Traveler: I have been accused of things before but nothing like this
(2009-07-30 18:02:23) Traveler: THen I could walk up and face the person
(2009-07-30 18:02:40) Traveler: Here there is not I can do to do so.
(2009-07-30 18:04:27) Ning = *******: add this:
(2009-07-30 18:04:31) Ning = *******: You are not privy to any complaints, or otherwise.
I have told you its had nothing to do with his profile at all! one of best friends is into BDSM, and I still love her. We won't to answer your questions, but we respect the privacy of the sites and members, with factual complaints him, also from ning itself. Again, I say it had nothing to do with his profile!!!!! Blessed Be,
(2009-07-30 18:04:50) Traveler: reading to Isabell will get here
(2009-07-30 18:06:17) Ning = *******: Aparently, he is saying NIng has "factual reports" on you!
(2009-07-30 18:06:59) Traveler: what are factual reports?
(2009-07-30 18:07:30) Traveler: Isabell asks where did they come from
(2009-07-30 18:07:46) Ning = *******: these two came from Peter J. Brown
(2009-07-30 18:08:02) Ning = *******: creator of The Craft ning site
(2009-07-30 18:08:51) Traveler: Iwas on that site less than 24 hours and asked if he wanted the practitioner pictures whe he responed ok to
(2009-07-30 18:09:00) Ning = *******: I honestly thing he is full of shit!
(2009-07-30 18:09:24) Traveler: that is insulting to the shit
(2009-07-30 18:09:26) Ning = *******: think I mean
(2009-07-30 18:09:29) Ning = *******: :)
(2009-07-30 18:09:33) Ning = *******: true
(2009-07-30 18:09:34) Traveler: nope
(2009-07-30 18:10:23) Ning = *******: he is arrogant in his attitude though and as far as I'M concerned, he is heading for a fall
(2009-07-30 18:10:59) Traveler: wait till I get this all placed into one place.
(2009-07-30 18:14:07) Traveler: Do you think he would be awoken when he finds the Artist site?
(2009-07-30 18:14:49) Ning = *******: I have no idea. I think I'm about to be banned from THIS site though!
(2009-07-30 18:14:56) Ning = *******: My latest rebuttal:
(2009-07-30 18:15:00) Ning = *******: You claimed I had no right to know the situation because I am not a ning creator but I AM so I DO have the right to know what is going on. I HAVE asked Ning about this and I promise you I will look into it thoroughly. He has been singled out without a SHRED of proof other than people don't know like profile while someone who has STALKED no less than TWO women on the ning site is allowed to continue with his activities! You may ban me if you will. I care not! I was asking NICELY but have only gotten derision and arrogance in return. I WILL get to the bottom of this and if there IS something that he has done wrong, then I will apolegize but if there is NOT, then I suggest you learn humility.
(2009-07-30 18:15:46) Ning = *******: I ask you to include THIS as well with your other notes, just so one of us has them all. :D
(2009-07-30 18:16:00) Traveler: fang and claw I need you to sic people more he he he
(2009-07-30 18:16:08) Ning = *******: LOL
(2009-07-30 18:16:11) Ning = *******: bows
(2009-07-30 18:16:17) Ning = *******: brb

Ok this is as now for it ms tlikely will continue you decide am I what they accuse me of was this done incorrectly do people read and jump to worse ideas do other read and have no clue up what they have been asked. Many thing no pointing no saying bad members. This is what has been sent and stored. Let it stand as is. I am letting people know what has happened and I do. I do not hide I face.

Wow look at what happened when asked further of this matter: (2009-07-30 18:57:49) You are not privy to the information You are not a member of the Conglomeration of site owners and admin.'s. Nor an admin., here. There are reports on you, also for the same thing, it comes from a member of Wiccan Togther and Ning itself. THIS MATTER IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS I SAID, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PROFILE, AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS SIIE, IF YOU LIKE? I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU, YOU ARE BLATANTLY BEING DIREPECTFUL AND IT IS NOTED, AND YOUR MESSAGE HAVE BEN SENT TO NING, AND THE CONGLOMERATION. YOU KEEP SAYING ITS BECAUSE OF THE BDSM ON HIS PROFITE, I HAVE COSISTANTLY TOLD YOU THAT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! YOU WILL NOT LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! Blessed be Your Path, PETER PS. YES I'M YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Comment by Melody & The PussyCats on July 31, 2009 at 11:52am
Delete Comment Hi Traveler.
Thanks for your blog post.

It saddens me at how people are, as in closed minded, & That insted of asking questions they dismiss & jump to conclusions, They judge from their own small prospective.

~ Our judgments judge us, and nothing reveals us, exposes our weaknesses, more ingeniously than the attitude of pronouncing upon our fellows ~

Mx

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Comment by bob on July 31, 2009 at 12:41pm
Delete Comment wow that was long lol--peaple especiall of power let that go to there heads they realy do i been there and it sucked only i lost everything poems-storys ect- i was told a reason so i went on a nother sight that i new most would be on and i called them all out and it back fired on them they couldnt say anything and a lot of peaple left because of the shit they did they way i see it if someones goin to accuse me of somethin then lets debate it let everyone in on it i have nothin to hide but i guess they did stay true

Mildred Comment by Mildred on August 4, 2009 at 12:10am
Delete Comment leave-it-behind.......your-not-banned-here.

Traveler Comment by Traveler on August 4, 2009 at 12:23am
Delete Comment I have let most go but worry of it happening to another for if the group that is typed of is allowed to falsely and unjustly point at another how would one feel knowing they did not what could be done to stop for happening again. I still look for those who have hid in the mask of the internet and await the 'proof' that was refused to be given. For if man forget or ignores that has happen they are cursed to repeat to live through it once more. Till the pattern is broke the truth found or those in the power are changed. with this many know of the and perhaps will prevent from again happening to one as it did me.

Mildred Comment by Mildred on August 4, 2009 at 1:32am
Delete Comment you-need-to-sharpen-your-sword-dealing-with-those-people.i-see-they-mess-your-life-pretty-good...give-them-a-big-blown-i-have-another-sword-if-u-need-one

Nicole Comment by Nicole on September 1, 2009 at 10:27pm
Delete Comment Ugh...this sounds like a big bunch of drama. Their loss my friend. You can not hold back who you are, or things you want to say, if you do that-they win. Be yourself. This is an expressive place...express. We accept you, well, I know I do.

*hugs

Traveler Comment by Traveler on September 2, 2009 at 9:55pm
Delete Comment Thank you for your words. And yes stupid internet drama. It seems some can sway the many with a few placed words of falseness. With the many will blindly following them. And will not present the 'proof' of it to be made true or shown false. That is the real falseness of this.

Nicole Comment by Nicole on September 2, 2009 at 10:18pm
Delete Comment I agree with you...very much. People have a severe misconception of what is real and true...in the end...they will believe whatever, because it's a choice they ahve made, regardless if it's true or not.

It really sounds like they were just making shit up, and just wanted you gone.

Like I said, their loss...

*hugs

Traveler Comment by Traveler on September 3, 2009 at 12:24am
Delete Comment Thank you for your kindness Yes for some reason that seems correct but it still stings with what has been branded upon my name

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Comment by The Killer on July 31, 2009 at 4:45am
Delete Comment It a took me a little while to read all this lol ...if this is about your profile or BDFSM .... sorry for disappointing you but i cant fined anything wrong with your profile no do i pay any attention to BDFSM which i see perhaps that is the problem with others ....all i can say that don't badder me ...all i want here is to have fun ....if they don't like it screw them man...stick with your friends ....forget and relax ...do what you do .

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Comment by Dar es Alrah on July 31, 2009 at 10:49am
"Each individual has an absolute right to satisfy his sexual instinct as is physiologically proper for him. The one injunction is to treat all such acts as sacraments. One should not eat as the brutes, but in order to enable one to do one's will. The same applies to sex. We must use every faculty to further the one object of our existence." - Aleister Crowley.

I find it rather ridiculous that you've been banned because of your sexual practises. That you practise BDSM should not bar you from participating in discussion groups anymore than my choice of celibacy. Good day! :-)

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Comment by starseed on July 31, 2009 at 8:31am
Dear Traveller,
The way I look at it is this;
A site is like a group, a home of sorts. I have been warned on different sites that some of what I write could cause fear. Although I haven't been kicked out. This is like being invited to ones home, you must respect their home and their rules. Even though these homes might promote that they are loving
and openminded and accepting, then do the opposite to what they promoting, then in that case, I would leave happily and not take offense, as I think the worst part would be to stay where one is unloved, unwanted and disrespected. Like making chicken soup for a hundred people, there will always be those who will hate it, no matter how good the soup is. Their hate may not even be about the soup at all, rather it could be a competitive thing.
I do not agree with all I read, but that's OK. If I write that I don't agree and then get kicked off a site then that's OK too. Like being fired from a job you really hate, it leaves you open to finding a new job or path, you might really love, rather then looking at and ending, it might be better to cherish a new beginning or a new path. I don't expect everyone to like me, I don't believe that is even possible in a duality, with so many people on different paths and religions and ages of experience. Sometimes when we have high expectations and we learn that others do not meet our expectations it hurts us, especially where love, acceptance and openmindedness are concerned as one mans treasure is anothers junk. We each have the freedom to choose what we belive. I wish you the greatest love on your travels. I am sorry, so many have treated you badly. Not all people are the same.
Love and Light,
Starseed

wansfell Comment by wansfell on July 31, 2009 at 6:52am
i was banned from a site because of ito freespirit....

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Comment by Cherish Moondancer on July 31, 2009 at 4:41pm
Delete Comment Merry Meet friend, I, too, knew had been banned from other sites. I did not know why and do not care to know why. I totally do not understand your profile page, nor too much of this blog post but I am new to this path (2 years) before that I was a lost soul. We do have a code of ethics which we do expect you to follow. I do understand that you were copying other peoples posts in your blog and the profanity was theirs. I am not a prude by no means, I like to say I've been around the world and I'm going again. But, there are a few curse words I do not like to hear or read in personal conversations, and that is the F word. In the future if you would just edit the word to this (F***), I would appreciate as a courtesy. Profanity is still not allowed but I can understand it's use when you are copying someone's post. This is no way an "Offical Request" just a personal peeve of mine. May your moccassion my happy trials, Wado, Cherish Moondancer (admin)

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Comment by Atook Tyranas on July 31, 2009 at 10:48am
Delete Comment so.. why was this posted?

Traveler Comment by Traveler on July 31, 2009 at 11:47am
Delete Comment Perhaps to find out the truth of why and how people on ning can judge accuses and do this with out knowing or looking for the truth. Would be simple answerered

Tearu Flower Showmo-Dragule Comment by Tearu Flower Showmo-Dragule on July 31, 2009 at 11:01pm
Delete Comment I do not have a problem with you here on my site I am a submissive and some things are better left off the profiles if children are on the sites. I get both your point and their point. As far as the name calling that's a bit much. Could you take this down from my site I don't want to be involved in this.

Traveler Comment by Traveler on August 1, 2009 at 12:12pm
Delete Comment Is this better? Edited still with thoughts but with out the full of the issue.

Tark Canis Shouwthfang Comment by Tark Canis Shouwthfang on September 10, 2009 at 5:27pm
Delete Comment I still feel lost in this.. I read the first issue and still didn't like the subject of it. So long as you keep things to a Logical Mature setting. I do not see a problem. I agree with Faith. Certain things are better off left Off the pages when children can see them. Even Roleplay intimate events are removed quickly after they are finished so that it stays private.

Best to keep things Clean then have another problem. For I too am a judging factor, and a stickler for many things. To be honest. Ask Faith or Serenity, My word is final, and if I deem things to be unwanted on this site. They will be removed, and if need be. As will the poster of the subject.

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Anyone know of this it referances sites I am on‏
From: Queen PR ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 7/31/09 4:43 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Queen PR has sent you a message on OCA Occult Cultural Awareness

Wow seriuosly that was oncalled for. You have every right to ask that question..i apologize for her rudeness..i am in the process of moving this site from ning and that will evliate some of this bullshit..as I am head Admin on OCA not her. Hopefully you will move to the new site....www.ocas.webs.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:15:57 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Queen PR
>
> Yes this was senr to me about me. And they refers to other sites I am on and others talked to I am trying to find out who those 'others are. I am asking all 'be friended' people in sites I am on to see if they were approached and asked of me or the site was.
>
> This is what I got from this site last night your message and this one are diffrent tone and meaning
>
> WICKEDSAPPHIRE has sent you a message on OCA Occult Cultural Awareness
>
> TRAVELER...YOU NEED TO STOP POSTING THIS SHIT ON ALL THE SITES....I CAN AND WILL BAN YOU IF YOU PERSIST ON ACCUSING OR INSINUATE THAT ANY OF MY SITES THAT I AM HEAD ADMINISTRATOR ON THAT WE KNEW OR HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU BEING BANNED FOR THE CRAFT!!!! THIS IS VERY OFFENSIVE TO ADMINS AND OTHER CREATORS...ITS LIKE YOUR OUT RIGHT ACCUSING ANY ONE OF US FOR YOUR BEHAVIOR ON ANOTHER SITE....IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU BEING BANNED FROM THAT SITE THEN I SUGGEST YOU TAKE IT UP WITH PETER J. BROWN...NOW..NO MORE AND DONT START THIS SHIT ON CHILDREN OF THE NITE EITHER!!!!
>
> WICKEDSAPPHIRE-HEAD ADMINISTRATOR OF OCA
> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:56:55 +0000
> > From: Queen PR
> > To: Traveler
> >
> > i have no clue what that is about...it is wierd..are they talking about you? can't be..i am on several sites with you so they can't be talking about you..have no clue whatthose idiots are talking about
> > > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:32:05 +0000
> > > From: Traveler
> > > To: Queen PR, WICKEDSAPPHIRE
> > >
> > > Banned‏
> > > From: PETER J BROWN ([e-mail])
> > > Sent: Wed 7/29/09 12:49 AM
> > > To: Traveler ([e-mail])


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blog‏
From: Knight King ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 7/31/09 5:07 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Knight King has sent you a message on MANY FRIENDSHIPS 2

I was not aware that the allegations were partly child porn. Now I can more understand why you are beyond upset, you have to protect your own, this is an honorable thing. I don't understand why some would make that allegation. I have read you writings and never have I came across anything remotely that would point towards you being into child porn. Traveler I know what it is like being falsely accused, in my past world of drugs and alcohol addiction it was a thing that happened on a daily basis. When I quit doing drugs people turned me into a snitch, women who I would not have sex with started rumors of me being gay. They broke my heart and to this day I do not trust people. Remember I told you of thoughts I had of hurting people, well I once had a map in my mind of the places I was going to go to and envelope them with kaos and mayhem. I would have succeeded, taking back roads and such. So I know why you must hunt traveler, I have been there. I stayed in my cave until these thoughts were subdued, but I want you to know they are still on a slow burner in the back of my mind. (con't) part one
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:12:03 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Knight King
>
> I have a almost 3 year old son. This issuse is child porn. That means if pushed I could lose him. This also states others of a group that so far no one know of nor has heard of. So where are they?
>
> I face my fears I deal with many I stand most don't. If they care what to know they would ask not run hide and cry for mommy daddy to save them from somthign they do not understand.
>
>
> Pissed off just does not cover the I am right now. I don't do fluffy bunny I hunt I deal and take care of. Simple enough.
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:13:28 +0000
> > From: Knight King
> > To: Traveler
> >
> > I am sorry it came down this way, I really am. I wish you the best with clearing your name, I cannot help when I myself don't understand you fully. I was beginning to understand the way

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con't part two‏
From: Knight King ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 7/31/09 5:07 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Knight King has sent you a message on MANY FRIENDSHIPS 2

They are unaware of what I had planned, I would not tell my doctors because I did not want to be put away in a nut house, so I am medicated and stay to myself. As far as my site, I am not going to be there very much or on ning at all. I hope for you the best and that you can clear this up without losing anything you love, your child. I have just lost mine, she is on a work farm until her trial then she goes to prison, too many drug offenses and running from the law for the last year, they finally caught her at her sisters house from another marriage. My life right now pretty much sucks, I feel I am the reason she is going to prison, I tried to reach out to her, but like me when I was on drugs she would not listen to anyone. She is 38 years old, been in the Navy. I tried to get her to go to the VA and get help, but she wouldn't. Maybe this work farm she is on will go good for her when in front of the judge, maybe a lighter sentence. I hope they see she needs help and they won't send her to prison. Good luck Traveler, I really mean that. kk

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