A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

This is my and the responses from the action of banned from sites. People who have answered my asking if they knew of things. And messages back and forth. Names and sites have been removed to not point or give directions time and dates are left to see the flow of it. The bottom line is none but a few of the ‘befriended’ in the Ningverse have typed to me to ask and have answers given.

Many it seems closed their minds and do not want to ask or learn difference of social stereotypical ideas and the actually of one person. Below you will find some of the messages written to me from others. Some are those who this action has been taken by. Others finding things out and the general concern of why and how come.

I asked of a banning massage sent to me. It referenced other sites I am on other adim and others talked to. But because of that asking to find if anyone knew of it or was part of it. I have been banned off three more sites. And it seems several people do not read things for they thought is was a personal attack or I was banning them or threatening to or accusing them. Which it was not just a asking of help to know where this came from and if any knew of it.

No I did what I do ask if any one knew of or about things. And found only three that had an idea. But got lots of do not know or what or why.

Guess that does not work in the Ningverse. Instead all just fly off to their own separate corners and can type anything they want of any one they do not agree with them and make it as if correct.

Instead of typing me asking me and learning the of me.

Judged sentenced and executing of sentence commenced.


(2009-07-30 17:46:57) Ning = *******: you there? sorry it took so long to get back!
(2009-07-30 17:47:05) Ning = *******: I have a response from Peter know it all!
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Ning = *******: He said the following:
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Traveler: you do what is need
(2009-07-30 17:47:17) Ning = *******: Merry Meet.,
We have facts from other sites as well as ours. You are not an admin or a creator of a site. So we can not share the info with you. You can contact Ning, they have factual reports on him. So its not just us. You may leave the site if you want, We owe you no explanation on this. His profile was fine. He was caught spamming kiddies porn, on several sites, not just ours.Blessed Be your path Peter I consider this matter closed. He was given an explanation, why he was banned from me, several admin's, and other sites that banned him. We can't help that he ignores these messages
(2009-07-30 17:48:04) Traveler: now that is news to me. Don't you have a site?
(2009-07-30 17:48:11) Ning = *******: yes I do
(2009-07-30 17:48:15) Ning = *******: apparently, asshole doesn't REALIZE that!
(2009-07-30 17:49:06) Traveler: um how does one get a copy of the ning thing? as site person request it?
(2009-07-30 17:50:21) Ning = *******: not sure. looking into it now
(2009-07-30 17:51:09) Traveler: ok then and how does one cautch one doing this? and how proves it is the person there id theft? cut paste use some one profile?
(2009-07-30 17:52:39) Traveler: never asked me of this nor has anyone ever typed of this before
(2009-07-30 17:53:24) Ning = *******: well, I have the HELP tab open now for Ning. I am about to check it out.
(2009-07-30 17:53:53) Traveler: sick um
17:56
(2009-07-30 17:59:18) Ning = *******: this is what I have said to the Ning Helpdesk:
(2009-07-30 17:59:23) Ning = *******: I have been informed that several ning administrators and creators have banned a person going by the name of Traveler. They have attacked him without cause and accuse him of all sorts of things that he is innocent of. I have had NO trouble with this person. He is actually QUITE intelligent and has alot to offer as a member. He is being banned without warning, not given the chance to defend himself, and now Peter J. Brown, who has accused ME of not being a site creator and therefore "unworthy" of being given information on WHYthis man was banned, has accused Traveler of child porn, which he has told me he is NOT into in the least. He is not being given fair treatment and I, as a site creator, would like to know WHY he has been singled out like this! I should like one of you to get in touch with me AND Traveler so that his side of the story can be revealed and this persecution be stopped! I am FURIOUS that this is going on at a site that up until now I have had quite a great time on! I talk to Traveler every day and know him to NOT be the kind of person Peter has accused him of! I want this to be handled in as direct a way as possible! Thank you. *******
(2009-07-30 18:00:46) Traveler: I bow my head and softly thank you little one
(2009-07-30 18:01:01) Ning = *******: bows back You are quite welcome!
(2009-07-30 18:01:16) Ning = *******: I mean what I say, as well! I am APPALLED that this is going on!
(2009-07-30 18:01:39) Traveler: I am currently copy past the messages that I have upon this.
(2009-07-30 18:02:09) Traveler: I have been accused of things before but nothing like this
(2009-07-30 18:02:23) Traveler: THen I could walk up and face the person
(2009-07-30 18:02:40) Traveler: Here there is not I can do to do so.
(2009-07-30 18:04:27) Ning = *******: add this:
(2009-07-30 18:04:31) Ning = *******: You are not privy to any complaints, or otherwise.
I have told you its had nothing to do with his profile at all! one of best friends is into BDSM, and I still love her. We won't to answer your questions, but we respect the privacy of the sites and members, with factual complaints him, also from ning itself. Again, I say it had nothing to do with his profile!!!!! Blessed Be,
(2009-07-30 18:04:50) Traveler: reading to Isabell will get here
(2009-07-30 18:06:17) Ning = *******: Aparently, he is saying NIng has "factual reports" on you!
(2009-07-30 18:06:59) Traveler: what are factual reports?
(2009-07-30 18:07:30) Traveler: Isabell asks where did they come from
(2009-07-30 18:07:46) Ning = *******: these two came from Peter J. Brown
(2009-07-30 18:08:02) Ning = *******: creator of The Craft ning site
(2009-07-30 18:08:51) Traveler: Iwas on that site less than 24 hours and asked if he wanted the practitioner pictures whe he responed ok to
(2009-07-30 18:09:00) Ning = *******: I honestly thing he is full of shit!
(2009-07-30 18:09:24) Traveler: that is insulting to the shit
(2009-07-30 18:09:26) Ning = *******: think I mean
(2009-07-30 18:09:29) Ning = *******: :)
(2009-07-30 18:09:33) Ning = *******: true
(2009-07-30 18:09:34) Traveler: nope
(2009-07-30 18:10:23) Ning = *******: he is arrogant in his attitude though and as far as I'M concerned, he is heading for a fall
(2009-07-30 18:10:59) Traveler: wait till I get this all placed into one place.
(2009-07-30 18:14:07) Traveler: Do you think he would be awoken when he finds the Artist site?
(2009-07-30 18:14:49) Ning = *******: I have no idea. I think I'm about to be banned from THIS site though!
(2009-07-30 18:14:56) Ning = *******: My latest rebuttal:
(2009-07-30 18:15:00) Ning = *******: You claimed I had no right to know the situation because I am not a ning creator but I AM so I DO have the right to know what is going on. I HAVE asked Ning about this and I promise you I will look into it thoroughly. He has been singled out without a SHRED of proof other than people don't know like profile while someone who has STALKED no less than TWO women on the ning site is allowed to continue with his activities! You may ban me if you will. I care not! I was asking NICELY but have only gotten derision and arrogance in return. I WILL get to the bottom of this and if there IS something that he has done wrong, then I will apolegize but if there is NOT, then I suggest you learn humility.
(2009-07-30 18:15:46) Ning = *******: I ask you to include THIS as well with your other notes, just so one of us has them all. :D
(2009-07-30 18:16:00) Traveler: fang and claw I need you to sic people more he he he
(2009-07-30 18:16:08) Ning = *******: LOL
(2009-07-30 18:16:11) Ning = *******: bows
(2009-07-30 18:16:17) Ning = *******: brb

Ok this is as now for it ms tlikely will continue you decide am I what they accuse me of was this done incorrectly do people read and jump to worse ideas do other read and have no clue up what they have been asked. Many thing no pointing no saying bad members. This is what has been sent and stored. Let it stand as is. I am letting people know what has happened and I do. I do not hide I face.

Wow look at what happened when asked further of this matter: (2009-07-30 18:57:49) You are not privy to the information You are not a member of the Conglomeration of site owners and admin.'s. Nor an admin., here. There are reports on you, also for the same thing, it comes from a member of Wiccan Togther and Ning itself. THIS MATTER IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS I SAID, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PROFILE, AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS SIIE, IF YOU LIKE? I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU, YOU ARE BLATANTLY BEING DIREPECTFUL AND IT IS NOTED, AND YOUR MESSAGE HAVE BEN SENT TO NING, AND THE CONGLOMERATION. YOU KEEP SAYING ITS BECAUSE OF THE BDSM ON HIS PROFITE, I HAVE COSISTANTLY TOLD YOU THAT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! YOU WILL NOT LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! Blessed be Your Path, PETER PS. YES I'M YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Anyone know of this?‏
From: Willow ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 3:27 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Willow has sent you a message on PaganSpace.net The Social Network for the Occult Community

You have nothing to fear with this 'person'. I can tell you that the only sites which he has any power over would be ones that he has created himself! I believe he may have been banned on Wiccan Together and I am going to find that out for sure later tonight, as I know the creator. I myself have had many go rounds with this person as he attempts to offer advice in areas that he has no qualifications. He has brought himself to the point of being banned from many sites so I find his accusations almost comical. Rest assured that he has no power here. He sadly, is a legend only in his own mind. He has no power or authority with Ning, and his claims are sadly dishonest. I would go so far as to say that the only person out there who would listen to him whatsoever would be the newcomer to the Old Ways. If it is any consolation, no sooner did I read the email from you the first time, when I went to my own site, where I found that he had applied for membership! Not only did I decline it, but I banned him as well. It's not nice to say, but there is simply no way that the moran is going to be messing with who I consider, friends. If you have any further problems with him, please let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Hugs and Blessings, Willow
> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:37:04 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Willow
>
> Thank you for youe words you are on of three only that have know of this persona and you have typed more than either of them to tell me of this person.
>
> My profile seems not to be the main reason the accusation of child p=== is and that is what pissed me for none came to me nor asked of me it has been decided and judged. That is why the mass question of does any one know of about or why.
>
> It is the group of Conglomeration of sites admin and people that has been referenced who are they to hold court over me and not have me stand for my self or refer to people that physically know me not just Internet 'be friended'.
>
> With the can't give inf

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Comment by Karel Vorster on August 1, 2009 at 6:50am
WTF???? What is all this about???
Look mate - I am a priest. Properly ordainded, sanctioned by the Pope, two Metropolitans and what have you. And yes - being "christian" and especially a priest means that we carry a lot of crap around.
For God's sake, if any of the bishops even know that I am on here, there will be crap to high heaven (most of them are also. but we are not allowed to be).

In any case, what is with the treatment of this girl? It is really out of form, no ethics, not even human. Granted, I did not read every single post, as I was too upset to do so.

Is this what this site is about? - If you wanted to start a cult, and have yourself look like a "deliverer" - do so. Many people have joined this site - do not let your own megalomaniacal desires destroy it.

Traveler Comment by Traveler on August 1, 2009 at 10:58am
I really don't think you read this correctly. There are those that are accusing falsely of things. And I am trying to find those that know of them or something of this action. I to am a Reverend and am very up set with the of what has been subjected towards me. But no one asked if this is true no one asked of me to tell my side. The words were typed the finger pointed the judging done and now I am trying to undo the unjust of it. For it is all to fast to believing to worst then learn the truth it seems.

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hello‏
From: Knight King (site creator) ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 12:56 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Knight King (site creator) has sent you a message on Ancient World

welcome back, you forever have a home here. We have read the blog very slowly and it is a travesty what has happened to you. I am ashamed that I did not dig deeper into this, Karen helped me see the way , You have done nothing wrong in our eyes. I know you must feel like a rubber band, I am truly sorry and responsible for that. I will take the heat. KK

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chances‏
From: Lady Liane ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 2:03 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Liane has sent you a message on Ancient World

i am here to tell you that we have extended our hands out to you for a chance for you to learn that chivalry is still here in this world.

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Anyone know of this?‏
From: Willow ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 7:19 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Willow has sent you a message on PaganSpace.net The Social Network for the Occult Community

I am sorry for the pain and problems that this has caused for you. The only site that I knew him from was Wiccan Together. He had many go arounds with the members there. You could try Zalenka on that site as she had to put him in his prospective place many times. Also he was constantly contacting the site owner, Brian K., with what he thought were personal attacks on him caused by the entire site mind you. He seemed to feel that everyone was out to get him.
> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:42:16 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Willow
>
> You are the third to know of this Peter and the first to type of him to me. This seems intresting. But as I have told many in the past more then one source needs to be found to know if is correct. So if yu know more that know of this please let them type to me for the better the resources then more the truth has foundation upon the written.
>
> I am more concerned with the damage already done the sites already banned and those whom believe or only part know of things and are against me still.
>
> If there is a group there than that is one place I would ake my words. If it is allinhis ego and mind then I have little to go.
>
> Thank you again for your words They have softened the bellowing of him but not the blow to myself.
> > Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:27:34 +0000
> > From: Willow
> > To: Traveler
> >
> > You have nothing to fear with this 'person'. I can tell you that the only sites which he has any power over would be ones that he has created himself! I believe he may have been banned on Wiccan Together and I am going to find that out for sure later tonight, as I know the creator. I myself have had many go rounds with this person as he attempts to offer advice in areas that he has no qualifications. He has brought himself to the point of being banned from many sites so I find his accusations almost comical. Rest assured that he has no power here. He sadly, is a legend only in his own mind. He has no power or authority with

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GOOD MORNING‏
From: Karen ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 9:56 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Karen has sent you a message on MANY FRIENDSHIPS 2

THERE IS NO THANKING ME AS FAR AS IAM CONCERNED WE ARE FRIENDS & HERE IS OUR HOME......:) IAM SORRY FOR WHAT I DID &TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR IT.

AS YOU SAY IAM ME & YOU ARE YOU. I WANT TOMAKE MORE THEMES FROM SOME OF PICTURES SOME I KNOW I NEED TO SPEND DAY & GO THREW & GET RID OF ONES I CANNOT USE.......BUT UNTIL I AM HONORED & HUMBLED WITH ALOT FROM YOU....:)

I ENJOY MAKING YOU & FAMILY THEMES & WAITING ALSO ON A NEW PIC FROM YOUR DAUGHTER...TO MAKE HER ANOTHER ONE. TAKE CARE

AND I SEE ALL SHOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU SOON.
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:26:57 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Karen, Dvorah, Knight King
>
> Karen,
> I do not have any wrong of you. I placed words here so you could see what is happening and is being typed. I know I scared you and know that hurt me to know I did. I am grate full for you with this here as a chance to learn of both. But there is many things out of here that make me as well. The words placed her show you one what I have once again been seen incorrectly. teo what some thing good or bad of me. And three I am not hiding the fact that things you would not like of a person are being typed towards me.
>
> I have for many years dealt with things by facing the person talking and coming out with an agreement or understanding. Here it seems many can point type and judge sentence and execute that upon some one with out knowing asking of or caring enough to look into things.
>
> I ask for your understanding and hopefully put up with me. This stings more than most could ever know. I have a almost 3 year old son. In this day and age just a suggestion of this is enough for the legal to come and take him from me. Wiht out asking or wanting the truth first.
>
> Many will not understand the public posting and many most likely will not read it and understand the wrong done to me. But will focus on the bad and then hold it against me with out asking or finding the truth. People no long seem to care of truth and correct. Just run at any thing that

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blog‏
From: Karen ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 10:00 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Karen has sent you a message on MANY FRIENDSHIPS 2

IM SORRY YOU ALL HAD TO GO THREW THAT.........I AM HAPPY I LET KK IN SO HE COULD READ WHAT I READ & YOU ALL BECOME FRIENDS .......THIS IS GOOD & LEANNE ALSO......... I READ THE BLOG ....ITS CRAZY & LIES I HOPE SOMEDAY THEY NEED TO LOOK AT THEMSELVES & GET DEALT WTH.........

THE INTERNET IS NOTHING LIKE IT USE DTO BE BEFORE YOU HAD 2 PROVE EVERYTHING NOW I AM AFRIAD THEY JUST DELETE..........BUT WIPES........:(

WELL YOU HAVE AFRIEND IN ME
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:39:06 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Karen, Dvorah, Knight King
>
> I know not of most things but what the world has taught me I have learned well. I am learning here that few very few will ask me things. Many though will not and place stereotypical values upon me. Or find a way to rid me from their sites for I do not conform or fit into the box they think I belong in on the shelf. Seems many still want the blinders on and not look at the world.
>
> No longer reading for content just skimming and find in words that make a response. Good or bad they focus on bad mostly of tht is all the world now seems to want. So by not fully reading and just picking what one wants the thoughts most have are not fully developed or based on other then their minds.
>
> To keep the peace it is easier to remove and get rid of what is ruffling feathers causing waves. Than to explain show teach and have people learn. For most do not want their world changed. As long as it is not them it does not matter. But if it is them then the world MUST take notice.
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:59:21 +0000
> > From: Karen
> > To: Traveler, Knight King, Dvorah
> >
> > HEY ALL
> >
> > KK, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE GROUP?? I SPOKE YOU ON PHONE & TOLD YOU HE IS A NICE GUY TRAVELER & I EVEN SPOKE......ON PHONE WHAT HAPPENED.......
> >
> > ONE THING I HAVE SAID SINCE 1998 .........PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN TO READ.......:) & IF THEY DON'T BEFORE THEY ANSWER & ACCUSE THEY SHOULD TAKE TIME TO READ.....
> > I ALWAYS WAIT TO ANSWER SOMETHING....I DONT CA

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When and if have chance‏
From: Karen ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 8/01/09 10:04 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Karen has sent you a message on MANY FRIENDSHIPS 2

I WOULD BE LIKE ISABEL BUT MOST LIKE THAT ARE SCARED Y KATS & CAT REALLY FACE PEOPLE ALOT LIKE THAT IAM AFRAID ON NET........I WISH I HAD MEANS TO MAK EIT BETTE RFOR YOU ALL......

I DO HOPE YOU FIND SOME COMFORT IN WHAT HAS BEEN DONE........TO MY HELPING WITH LIANE & KNIGHT KING....HE IS SO HAPPY YOUR BACK & HONORED & I HEARD YOU FEATURED MEMBER & HE WANTS TO LEARN FROM YOU. SO THIS IS GOOD..........

YOU TAKE CARE & DANCE A JIG MAYBE 1 GROUP AT A TIME ......CONQUER THAT WAY.........:) THEN YA GET EM--- WHERE IT HURTS

I HOPE YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:44:57 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Karen
>
> Money sucks Isabell is pissed and most are lucky stuck in internet she worse than I am with this issue I want to hunt and find she wants to take apart brick by brick body part by body part till the group that seems to be doing this has been found dealt with and ensured that will not again.
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:01:26 +0000
> > From: Karen
> > To: Traveler
> >
> > OK WE WILLL WORK ON THIS JUST HAVE TO GET OVER HELPING A FRIEND HERE & 2 MORE LEFT ON NET.........:) PROMISE.........THEN WE MAKE YOU & GROUP GOOD OR AS BEST AS I CAN DO..........:)
> > HOWS MONEY & ISABEL GIVE THEM MY REGARDS & HUGS
> > > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:36:45 +0000
> > > From: Traveler
> > > To: Karen
> > >
> > > I am glad that I have not caused you hurt. Pace your self I am not in hurry. Did place letter in blog and put two places for page breakes if can have then those points I can use the dept descriptions seperate of letter. Rain thunder and wet here today. Rummmmmmblies in sky. Will do full moon update think I found good things for you I hope.
> > >
> > >
> > > Still some time would like to discuss themes for Departments as well but that will be upon your comfortable factors. Site is better and slowly coming toghter.
> > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:06:29 +0000
> > > > From: Karen
> > > > To: Traveler
> > > >
> > > > you CAN"T change her I did what they call & o

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Comment by James (Blackcrow) on August 2, 2009 at 12:44am
There is a lot of personal feelings interfering with people's judgements and as admin or creators they must always stay aloof and judge only on the content and intent.
I PERSONALLY HAVE NO ISSUE WITH YOU OR YOUR LIFESTYLE and further more I have no problem allowing teenagers to read your page. In the 21st century it is about time people grew up and got liberated.

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your blog post and profile page‏
From: P Blue Frost ([e-mail])
Sent: Sun 8/02/09 12:04 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

P Blue Frost has sent you a message on Magical World of Wonder

Thank you for brining your page to my attention..
I dont appreciate you using my group to look for women.. MWW IS NOT A DATE GROUP AND YOU WILL REMOVE THAT INFORMATION OR YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM HERE TOO.. MWW is an over 18 group.. but what you have i find offensive.. If you want to call it closed minded i dont care.. MWW is my group and I find it offensive and I and telling you to remove it or I will remove it for you (ie a ban) I am not going to sit and debate with you about this.. it is not an option.. I have final say... I am giving you a take it or leave it choice I also do not appreciate you bringing your personal war to my group..

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