A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

This is my and the responses from the action of banned from sites. People who have answered my asking if they knew of things. And messages back and forth. Names and sites have been removed to not point or give directions time and dates are left to see the flow of it. The bottom line is none but a few of the ‘befriended’ in the Ningverse have typed to me to ask and have answers given.

Many it seems closed their minds and do not want to ask or learn difference of social stereotypical ideas and the actually of one person. Below you will find some of the messages written to me from others. Some are those who this action has been taken by. Others finding things out and the general concern of why and how come.

I asked of a banning massage sent to me. It referenced other sites I am on other adim and others talked to. But because of that asking to find if anyone knew of it or was part of it. I have been banned off three more sites. And it seems several people do not read things for they thought is was a personal attack or I was banning them or threatening to or accusing them. Which it was not just a asking of help to know where this came from and if any knew of it.

No I did what I do ask if any one knew of or about things. And found only three that had an idea. But got lots of do not know or what or why.

Guess that does not work in the Ningverse. Instead all just fly off to their own separate corners and can type anything they want of any one they do not agree with them and make it as if correct.

Instead of typing me asking me and learning the of me.

Judged sentenced and executing of sentence commenced.


(2009-07-30 17:46:57) Ning = *******: you there? sorry it took so long to get back!
(2009-07-30 17:47:05) Ning = *******: I have a response from Peter know it all!
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Ning = *******: He said the following:
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Traveler: you do what is need
(2009-07-30 17:47:17) Ning = *******: Merry Meet.,
We have facts from other sites as well as ours. You are not an admin or a creator of a site. So we can not share the info with you. You can contact Ning, they have factual reports on him. So its not just us. You may leave the site if you want, We owe you no explanation on this. His profile was fine. He was caught spamming kiddies porn, on several sites, not just ours.Blessed Be your path Peter I consider this matter closed. He was given an explanation, why he was banned from me, several admin's, and other sites that banned him. We can't help that he ignores these messages
(2009-07-30 17:48:04) Traveler: now that is news to me. Don't you have a site?
(2009-07-30 17:48:11) Ning = *******: yes I do
(2009-07-30 17:48:15) Ning = *******: apparently, asshole doesn't REALIZE that!
(2009-07-30 17:49:06) Traveler: um how does one get a copy of the ning thing? as site person request it?
(2009-07-30 17:50:21) Ning = *******: not sure. looking into it now
(2009-07-30 17:51:09) Traveler: ok then and how does one cautch one doing this? and how proves it is the person there id theft? cut paste use some one profile?
(2009-07-30 17:52:39) Traveler: never asked me of this nor has anyone ever typed of this before
(2009-07-30 17:53:24) Ning = *******: well, I have the HELP tab open now for Ning. I am about to check it out.
(2009-07-30 17:53:53) Traveler: sick um
17:56
(2009-07-30 17:59:18) Ning = *******: this is what I have said to the Ning Helpdesk:
(2009-07-30 17:59:23) Ning = *******: I have been informed that several ning administrators and creators have banned a person going by the name of Traveler. They have attacked him without cause and accuse him of all sorts of things that he is innocent of. I have had NO trouble with this person. He is actually QUITE intelligent and has alot to offer as a member. He is being banned without warning, not given the chance to defend himself, and now Peter J. Brown, who has accused ME of not being a site creator and therefore "unworthy" of being given information on WHYthis man was banned, has accused Traveler of child porn, which he has told me he is NOT into in the least. He is not being given fair treatment and I, as a site creator, would like to know WHY he has been singled out like this! I should like one of you to get in touch with me AND Traveler so that his side of the story can be revealed and this persecution be stopped! I am FURIOUS that this is going on at a site that up until now I have had quite a great time on! I talk to Traveler every day and know him to NOT be the kind of person Peter has accused him of! I want this to be handled in as direct a way as possible! Thank you. *******
(2009-07-30 18:00:46) Traveler: I bow my head and softly thank you little one
(2009-07-30 18:01:01) Ning = *******: bows back You are quite welcome!
(2009-07-30 18:01:16) Ning = *******: I mean what I say, as well! I am APPALLED that this is going on!
(2009-07-30 18:01:39) Traveler: I am currently copy past the messages that I have upon this.
(2009-07-30 18:02:09) Traveler: I have been accused of things before but nothing like this
(2009-07-30 18:02:23) Traveler: THen I could walk up and face the person
(2009-07-30 18:02:40) Traveler: Here there is not I can do to do so.
(2009-07-30 18:04:27) Ning = *******: add this:
(2009-07-30 18:04:31) Ning = *******: You are not privy to any complaints, or otherwise.
I have told you its had nothing to do with his profile at all! one of best friends is into BDSM, and I still love her. We won't to answer your questions, but we respect the privacy of the sites and members, with factual complaints him, also from ning itself. Again, I say it had nothing to do with his profile!!!!! Blessed Be,
(2009-07-30 18:04:50) Traveler: reading to Isabell will get here
(2009-07-30 18:06:17) Ning = *******: Aparently, he is saying NIng has "factual reports" on you!
(2009-07-30 18:06:59) Traveler: what are factual reports?
(2009-07-30 18:07:30) Traveler: Isabell asks where did they come from
(2009-07-30 18:07:46) Ning = *******: these two came from Peter J. Brown
(2009-07-30 18:08:02) Ning = *******: creator of The Craft ning site
(2009-07-30 18:08:51) Traveler: Iwas on that site less than 24 hours and asked if he wanted the practitioner pictures whe he responed ok to
(2009-07-30 18:09:00) Ning = *******: I honestly thing he is full of shit!
(2009-07-30 18:09:24) Traveler: that is insulting to the shit
(2009-07-30 18:09:26) Ning = *******: think I mean
(2009-07-30 18:09:29) Ning = *******: :)
(2009-07-30 18:09:33) Ning = *******: true
(2009-07-30 18:09:34) Traveler: nope
(2009-07-30 18:10:23) Ning = *******: he is arrogant in his attitude though and as far as I'M concerned, he is heading for a fall
(2009-07-30 18:10:59) Traveler: wait till I get this all placed into one place.
(2009-07-30 18:14:07) Traveler: Do you think he would be awoken when he finds the Artist site?
(2009-07-30 18:14:49) Ning = *******: I have no idea. I think I'm about to be banned from THIS site though!
(2009-07-30 18:14:56) Ning = *******: My latest rebuttal:
(2009-07-30 18:15:00) Ning = *******: You claimed I had no right to know the situation because I am not a ning creator but I AM so I DO have the right to know what is going on. I HAVE asked Ning about this and I promise you I will look into it thoroughly. He has been singled out without a SHRED of proof other than people don't know like profile while someone who has STALKED no less than TWO women on the ning site is allowed to continue with his activities! You may ban me if you will. I care not! I was asking NICELY but have only gotten derision and arrogance in return. I WILL get to the bottom of this and if there IS something that he has done wrong, then I will apolegize but if there is NOT, then I suggest you learn humility.
(2009-07-30 18:15:46) Ning = *******: I ask you to include THIS as well with your other notes, just so one of us has them all. :D
(2009-07-30 18:16:00) Traveler: fang and claw I need you to sic people more he he he
(2009-07-30 18:16:08) Ning = *******: LOL
(2009-07-30 18:16:11) Ning = *******: bows
(2009-07-30 18:16:17) Ning = *******: brb

Ok this is as now for it ms tlikely will continue you decide am I what they accuse me of was this done incorrectly do people read and jump to worse ideas do other read and have no clue up what they have been asked. Many thing no pointing no saying bad members. This is what has been sent and stored. Let it stand as is. I am letting people know what has happened and I do. I do not hide I face.

Wow look at what happened when asked further of this matter: (2009-07-30 18:57:49) You are not privy to the information You are not a member of the Conglomeration of site owners and admin.'s. Nor an admin., here. There are reports on you, also for the same thing, it comes from a member of Wiccan Togther and Ning itself. THIS MATTER IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS I SAID, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PROFILE, AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS SIIE, IF YOU LIKE? I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU, YOU ARE BLATANTLY BEING DIREPECTFUL AND IT IS NOTED, AND YOUR MESSAGE HAVE BEN SENT TO NING, AND THE CONGLOMERATION. YOU KEEP SAYING ITS BECAUSE OF THE BDSM ON HIS PROFITE, I HAVE COSISTANTLY TOLD YOU THAT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! YOU WILL NOT LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! Blessed be Your Path, PETER PS. YES I'M YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hello‏
From: Knight King ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 11:26 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Knight King has sent you a message on nightcreaturesunited

traveler I have been talking to Karen and it seems I was wrong about the things you put on your page at ancient world. I did not ban you, you can come back any time. I apologize for the misunderstanding. I wrote to you before but no response , I don't blame you for having a problem with the way I treated you. You are more than welcome to be a member of my site, you could be very beneficial to the site with your knowledge of past peoples and the cultures. Anyway please forgive me and if you will let bygones be bygones. Karen speaks well of you and that is good enough for me, I did not know you. At first we were concerned about you but that is all in the past now. So I will send you an invite or you can just join, it is a public site now. Rap at ya later. Knight King

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FW: An attempt of common understanding if allowed one.‏
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Subject: An attempt of common understanding if allowed one.
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:56:37 +0000

Sometimes asking what one is would be good and what sick things> The fact that I am a Practitioner of old ways? The fact I am a traveling artist? The fact that I live upon the road and am different than most? The fact that I look for an apprentice style assistance of an older mind set?

What complaints and why is this the first I have seen of them? Why have I not been asked and conversed with? Why does this seem as a judged sentenced and carried out situation without one able to explain or present their side.

I made one attempt of a re write and then the banning was on. No response no words no thoughts.

Closed minds I have found many places but within the Practitioner community here they have been interesting at the very least.

I prey upon no one nor do I want to. No one has asked of my profile nor of me or meaning there of. So if you will let me know I will remove the profile and that will end it. Or the time limit of Thursday can be honored and a common ground can be found. Or the door of minds can remain the social stereotypic and uneducated of the ways and what is meant. Instead of the assumption and common mindset of today.


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:42:26 -0400

you were BAN Becuz of the SICK things you had on you page prey on young girls your kind isn't wanted here!! you will remain BANNED!! i've gotten many complaints against you for people on the site!

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FW: Your Problem‏
From: Allen Drago ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 7:35 PM
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:55:27 -0400
Subject: Your Problem
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
CC: [e-mail]

We have no closed minds nor do we pass moral judgment on anyone. However as
responsible human beings we must take care of and look out for our children
who don't need to be exposed to that type of subject matter. You are the
one with the problem as you believe your profile was fit for minors to
read. What kind of "adult" are you?

Yes, we initially gave you until Thursday but as you indicated in your 1st message you were unwilling to make the changes we requested and to tone it down and put it in the singles group where it belongs.

See you around the campfire. Many blessings,
Christine

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FW: (no subject)‏
From: Allen Drago ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 7:34 PM
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:42:26 -0400
Subject: (no subject)
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you were BAN Becuz of the SICK things you had on you page prey on young girls your kind isn't wanted here!! you will remain BANNED!! i've gotten many complaints against you for people on the site!

Admin

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FW: Hey Traveler‏
From: Allen Drago ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 7:33 PM
To: [e-mail]







> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:46:27 +0000
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Hey Traveler
>
> Christine (co-creator) has sent you a message on Gateway to Eternity
>
> I need you to do me a favor and change your profile information. We have children on site and that is not something that they should be reading. If you'd like to you may put up a scaled down version in the singles group.
>
> You have until Thursday PM to change your profile or we will have to unfortunately ban you.
>
> Many blessings,
> Christine
>
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FW: Your Problem‏
From: Allen Drago ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 7:32 PM
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From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: Your Problem
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:58:34 +0000

Sometimes asking what one is would be good and what sick things> The fact that I am a Practitioner of old ways? The fact I am a traveling artist? The fact that I live upon the road and am different than most? The fact that I look for an apprentice style assistance of an older mind set?

What complaints and why is this the first I have seen of them? Why have I not been asked and conversed with? Why does this seem as a judged sentenced and carried out situation without one able to explain or present their side.

I made one attempt of a re write and then the banning was on. No response no words no thoughts.

Closed minds I have found many places but within the Practitioner community here they have been interesting at the very least.

I prey upon no one nor do I want to. No one has asked of my profile nor of me or meaning there of. So if you will let me know I will remove the profile and that will end it. Or the time limit of Thursday can be honored and a common ground can be found. Or the door of minds can remain the social stereotypic and uneducated of the ways and what is meant. Instead of the assumption and common mindset of today.


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:42:26 -0400

you were BAN Becuz of the SICK things you had on you page prey on young girls your kind isn't wanted here!! you will remain BANNED!! i've gotten many complaints against you for people on the site!

Admin


Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:55:27 -0400
Subject: Your Problem
From: [e-mail]

We have no closed minds nor do we pass moral judgment on anyone. However as
responsible human beings we must take care of and look out for our children
who don't need to be exposed to that type of subject matter. You are the
one with the problem as you believe your profile was fit for minors to
read. What kind of "adult" are you?

Yes, we initially gave you until Thursday but as you indicated in your 1st message you were unwilling to make the changes we requested and to tone it down and put it in the singles group where it belongs.

See you around the campfire. Many blessings,
Christine

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FW: Your Problem‏
From: Allen Drago ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 7:31 PM
To: [e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:52:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Your Problem
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

Allen,
If you would like to re-write your profile, I don't have a problem with that which is why we gave you until Thursday. But you accused us have being closed-minded, then the "take me or leave me" attitude as far as your profile was concerned left us with no choice but to ban you as it appeared to 3 of us that you were unwilling to do so. We even gave you the option of using the info in your profile and put it up in the singles group where it really does belong. As parents we did not want the children on site to be exposed to information that is of a sexual nature and though it is your lifestyle, kids can't wrap their heads around it and frankly we are not their parents and if those parents want their children to learn of that lifestyle it's up to them to teach it to them, not get bits and pieces of it in a profile. The slaves bit was way over the top and NOT child friendly. We have quite a few minors on the site as the age range starts at 13 by law. In fact I can think of 3 13 year olds that we have off the top of my head. As the mother of 4, I would have been horrified had one of my children come to me with questions due to reading your profile.

Unfortunately, we do have to be careful for their sake. Personally, I have no problem with your lifestyle and in fact if we were an adult only site it would have been perfectly fine and this would never had been an issue.

I hope you can see our side of things. We're not putting you down and it's not a personal attack, we just need to be as responsible as we can.

Let me know if you'd like to come back and I will reinstate your membership.

Blessings,
Christine

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Allen Drago wrote:

Sometimes asking what one is would be good and what sick things> The fact that I am a Practitioner of old ways? The fact I am a traveling artist? The fact that I live upon the road and am different than most? The fact that I look for an apprentice style assistance of an older mind set?

What complaints and why is this the first I have seen of them? Why have I not been asked and conversed with? Why does this seem as a judged sentenced and carried out situation without one able to explain or present their side.

I made one attempt of a re write and then the banning was on. No response no words no thoughts.

Closed minds I have found many places but within the Practitioner community here they have been interesting at the very least.

I prey upon no one nor do I want to. No one has asked of my profile nor of me or meaning there of. So if you will let me know I will remove the profile and that will end it. Or the time limit of Thursday can be honored and a common ground can be found. Or the door of minds can remain the social stereotypic and uneducated of the ways and what is meant. Instead of the assumption and common mindset of today.


Rev. Allen M. Drago

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:42:26 -0400

you were BAN Becuz of the SICK things you had on you page prey on young girls your kind isn't wanted here!! you will remain BANNED!! i've gotten many complaints against you for people on the site!

Admin


Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:55:27 -0400
Subject: Your Problem
From: [e-mail]


We have no closed minds nor do we pass moral judgment on anyone. However as
responsible human beings we must take care of and look out for our children
who don't need to be exposed to that type of subject matter. You are the
one with the problem as you believe your profile was fit for minors to
read. What kind of "adult" are you?

Yes, we initially gave you until Thursday but as you indicated in your 1st message you were unwilling to make the changes we requested and to tone it down and put it in the singles group where it belongs.

See you around the campfire. Many blessings,
Christine

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FW: Answer of words once again‏
From: Allen Drago ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 7:30 PM
To: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Answer of words once again
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:47:11 +0000


I have rewritten the profile did you not notice? I have been constantly attacked upon the practitioner sites here in the Ningverse. Most never give reasons nor attempt to explain. This is the first time one has written and explained items of things to me. You may understand now the first reaction I have is one of here it goes again. No explaining any reason. I was given the Thursday dead line I made an attempt. The banning was on. That pissed me off. As if I did not even try or attempt to make things different.

My life style is of old and many ways not common but falls with in four different non social understood or seen as correct lifestyles. I have been open with what I do and what I practice. Which more than most. I join site corners only after being invited. Right upon my profile it states as questions. But few ever do they rather complain than ask me. IF there were things state upon me than why were they not brought forth? Why was I not asked and conversed with when the firs question was made. Have I not the right to face those whom oppose me? Or is the social normal of avoid and let someone else deal with it the status here as well?

The accusing of closed minds was because of no questions and the fact I did redo the profile by it seemed as if none looked at it nor any comment upon the fact was done. Also the past experiences of the Ning practitioner style had also been already felt, treating you as the whole was my mistake. I usually let one show their ways for themselves not group as others.

I look for one or two with a certain mindset to travel with us to work with us. The BDFSM lifestyle we follow is on of apprenticeship and service upon need than the common social romance style of thought of today. And it I state that in the profile.

My profile words if asked would have been explained. They are not for a 'single hook up" they are for a 2/7 traveling position within a service oriented placement.

As far as the younger populace if you looked you would have seen I have requirements as any job or placement of company position. I am not the parent of the world nor expect to be one whom curbs ones words upon a place where I have lived for many years. If someone can't ask questions then what will they tell their children of the answers?

I do not advertise any sexual nature and also in profile words specifically state I don't do that either. Or was that missed?

A slave a submissive an apprentice in the old ways and doings were about the same in status and need of the same mind set. I will teach if one is willing. But they must be able to do as asked and not become one I have to 'deal' with for their actions have incorrectly done something. I am in the constant public world and do not hide what who or how I think. Why does this bother people? If they want me to explain than I will if they do ask. Then the preconceived serotype notions are emplaced I am judged and sentenced for things that are neither correct nor true upon my ways.

The internet is vast and children are children. I know for I have three. But they also are educated within the gypsy artist strictness of their parent. And know the differences of asking and just blindly judging. And if the question or want is there any child upon an internet connection can find many things. When did the parent stop guiding the child and the world became the one to show the parent what is correct for they can no longer do so themselves.

I can make the profile private so only 'friends' can see it as well would that make one happy? That is choice that is never offered but is a setting upon Ningverse sites.

Questions are going to come no matter if is from an internet site, school, books or other influences. All one can do is take them as they arrive and do the best one can to answer guide and given counsel to those whom are within our care.

Adult site ideas are not what I am of or want. I look for one to learn of the old by the old upon the older mind set. Either the practitioner or artist venues I have. In return to work as need not with the modern mind of most I cross paths with.

I see that most never ask questions. I see that the stereotypic ideas have been in placed upon me. And yes because of the not asking is does come as personnel attack for not asking is one sided and incorrect with me.

If you want me back fine. I have re written once and that if truly read and discussed would open minds upon my ways. If not then tell me and I will delete the full profile and go. Simple enough.

I can also take these messages and post them in blog as well for others to read and it may enlighten them perhaps if they want to learn. Most I have found do not.

But when I am referred to as 'sick' because someone reads jumps to judgment then sentences me upon their own bias it makes one not happy within where those are in charge. For the closed mind will never be open by my words. Only the true need of questions fully listened to with out preconceived thoughts. And when the first question is asked is the time to ask of one. Not throwing that here have been many complaints as if it has been an on going chain of events. That was not asked of but left to build until this is the outcome.



Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:52:40 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Allen,
If you would like to re-write your profile, I don't have a problem with that which is why we gave you until Thursday. But you accused us have being closed-minded, then the "take me or leave me" attitude as far as your profile was concerned left us with no choice but to ban you as it appeared to 3 of us that you were unwilling to do so. We even gave you the option of using the info in your profile and put it up in the singles group where it really does belong. As parents we did not want the children on site to be exposed to information that is of a sexual nature and though it is your lifestyle, kids can't wrap their heads around it and frankly we are not their parents and if those parents want their children to learn of that lifestyle it's up to them to teach it to them, not get bits and pieces of it in a profile. The slaves bit was way over the top and NOT child friendly. We have quite a few minors on the site as the age range starts at 13 by law. In fact I can think of 3 13 year olds that we have off the top of my head. As the mother of 4, I would have been horrified had one of my children come to me with questions due to reading your profile.

Unfortunately, we do have to be careful for their sake. Personally, I have no problem with your lifestyle and in fact if we were an adult only site it would have been perfectly fine and this would never had been an issue.

I hope you can see our side of things. We're not putting you down and it's not a personal attack, we just need to be as responsible as we can.

Let me know if you'd like to come back and I will reinstate your membership.

Blessings,
Christine

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Allen Drago wrote:

Sometimes asking what one is would be good and what sick things> The fact that I am a Practitioner of old ways? The fact I am a traveling artist? The fact that I live upon the road and am different than most? The fact that I look for an apprentice style assistance of an older mind set?

What complaints and why is this the first I have seen of them? Why have I not been asked and conversed with? Why does this seem as a judged sentenced and carried out situation without one able to explain or present their side.

I made one attempt of a re write and then the banning was on. No response no words no thoughts.

Closed minds I have found many places but within the Practitioner community here they have been interesting at the very least.

I prey upon no one nor do I want to. No one has asked of my profile nor of me or meaning there of. So if you will let me know I will remove the profile and that will end it. Or the time limit of Thursday can be honored and a common ground can be found. Or the door of minds can remain the social stereotypic and uneducated of the ways and what is meant. Instead of the assumption and common mindset of today.


Rev. Allen M. Drago

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:42:26 -0400

you were BAN Becuz of the SICK things you had on you page prey on young girls your kind isn't wanted here!! you will remain BANNED!! i've gotten many complaints against you for people on the site!

Admin


Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:55:27 -0400
Subject: Your Problem
From: [e-mail]


We have no closed minds nor do we pass moral judgment on anyone. However as
responsible human beings we must take care of and look out for our children
who don't need to be exposed to that type of subject matter. You are the
one with the problem as you believe your profile was fit for minors to
read. What kind of "adult" are you?

Yes, we initially gave you until Thursday but as you indicated in your 1st message you were unwilling to make the changes we requested and to tone it down and put it in the singles group where it belongs.

See you around the campfire. Many blessings,
Christine

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FW: 4paws site‏
From: Allen Drago ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 7:27 PM
To: [e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:59:13 +0100
Subject: 4paws site
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

Hi There.
Please explain to me why you have been banned from the site of 4paws.

Kind Regards
Melody, ( site Developer)

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FW: 4paws site‏
From: Allen Drago ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 7/27/09 7:27 PM
To: [e-mail]







From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: 4paws site
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:00:08 +0000

I have no clue. I was invited to make a corner. I did so with my standard profile words and style. Joiuned the fairy group left some pictures of faries send one person a thank you. Then got two more messages from there after I came back from lunch tried to see them to answer them and was banned. No words no warning nothing to indicate any incorrect. If this is what your site is to be remembered for when I am asked I hope not.

D.

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:59:13 +0100
Subject: 4paws site
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

Hi There.
Please explain to me why you have been banned from the site of 4paws.

Kind Regards
Melody, ( site Developer)


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If you want to be a rock,
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But if you want to be a real humanbeing,
Then you must become a Revolutionary.

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