A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

This is my and the responses from the action of banned from sites. People who have answered my asking if they knew of things. And messages back and forth. Names and sites have been removed to not point or give directions time and dates are left to see the flow of it. The bottom line is none but a few of the ‘befriended’ in the Ningverse have typed to me to ask and have answers given.

Many it seems closed their minds and do not want to ask or learn difference of social stereotypical ideas and the actually of one person. Below you will find some of the messages written to me from others. Some are those who this action has been taken by. Others finding things out and the general concern of why and how come.

I asked of a banning massage sent to me. It referenced other sites I am on other adim and others talked to. But because of that asking to find if anyone knew of it or was part of it. I have been banned off three more sites. And it seems several people do not read things for they thought is was a personal attack or I was banning them or threatening to or accusing them. Which it was not just a asking of help to know where this came from and if any knew of it.

No I did what I do ask if any one knew of or about things. And found only three that had an idea. But got lots of do not know or what or why.

Guess that does not work in the Ningverse. Instead all just fly off to their own separate corners and can type anything they want of any one they do not agree with them and make it as if correct.

Instead of typing me asking me and learning the of me.

Judged sentenced and executing of sentence commenced.


(2009-07-30 17:46:57) Ning = *******: you there? sorry it took so long to get back!
(2009-07-30 17:47:05) Ning = *******: I have a response from Peter know it all!
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Ning = *******: He said the following:
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Traveler: you do what is need
(2009-07-30 17:47:17) Ning = *******: Merry Meet.,
We have facts from other sites as well as ours. You are not an admin or a creator of a site. So we can not share the info with you. You can contact Ning, they have factual reports on him. So its not just us. You may leave the site if you want, We owe you no explanation on this. His profile was fine. He was caught spamming kiddies porn, on several sites, not just ours.Blessed Be your path Peter I consider this matter closed. He was given an explanation, why he was banned from me, several admin's, and other sites that banned him. We can't help that he ignores these messages
(2009-07-30 17:48:04) Traveler: now that is news to me. Don't you have a site?
(2009-07-30 17:48:11) Ning = *******: yes I do
(2009-07-30 17:48:15) Ning = *******: apparently, asshole doesn't REALIZE that!
(2009-07-30 17:49:06) Traveler: um how does one get a copy of the ning thing? as site person request it?
(2009-07-30 17:50:21) Ning = *******: not sure. looking into it now
(2009-07-30 17:51:09) Traveler: ok then and how does one cautch one doing this? and how proves it is the person there id theft? cut paste use some one profile?
(2009-07-30 17:52:39) Traveler: never asked me of this nor has anyone ever typed of this before
(2009-07-30 17:53:24) Ning = *******: well, I have the HELP tab open now for Ning. I am about to check it out.
(2009-07-30 17:53:53) Traveler: sick um
17:56
(2009-07-30 17:59:18) Ning = *******: this is what I have said to the Ning Helpdesk:
(2009-07-30 17:59:23) Ning = *******: I have been informed that several ning administrators and creators have banned a person going by the name of Traveler. They have attacked him without cause and accuse him of all sorts of things that he is innocent of. I have had NO trouble with this person. He is actually QUITE intelligent and has alot to offer as a member. He is being banned without warning, not given the chance to defend himself, and now Peter J. Brown, who has accused ME of not being a site creator and therefore "unworthy" of being given information on WHYthis man was banned, has accused Traveler of child porn, which he has told me he is NOT into in the least. He is not being given fair treatment and I, as a site creator, would like to know WHY he has been singled out like this! I should like one of you to get in touch with me AND Traveler so that his side of the story can be revealed and this persecution be stopped! I am FURIOUS that this is going on at a site that up until now I have had quite a great time on! I talk to Traveler every day and know him to NOT be the kind of person Peter has accused him of! I want this to be handled in as direct a way as possible! Thank you. *******
(2009-07-30 18:00:46) Traveler: I bow my head and softly thank you little one
(2009-07-30 18:01:01) Ning = *******: bows back You are quite welcome!
(2009-07-30 18:01:16) Ning = *******: I mean what I say, as well! I am APPALLED that this is going on!
(2009-07-30 18:01:39) Traveler: I am currently copy past the messages that I have upon this.
(2009-07-30 18:02:09) Traveler: I have been accused of things before but nothing like this
(2009-07-30 18:02:23) Traveler: THen I could walk up and face the person
(2009-07-30 18:02:40) Traveler: Here there is not I can do to do so.
(2009-07-30 18:04:27) Ning = *******: add this:
(2009-07-30 18:04:31) Ning = *******: You are not privy to any complaints, or otherwise.
I have told you its had nothing to do with his profile at all! one of best friends is into BDSM, and I still love her. We won't to answer your questions, but we respect the privacy of the sites and members, with factual complaints him, also from ning itself. Again, I say it had nothing to do with his profile!!!!! Blessed Be,
(2009-07-30 18:04:50) Traveler: reading to Isabell will get here
(2009-07-30 18:06:17) Ning = *******: Aparently, he is saying NIng has "factual reports" on you!
(2009-07-30 18:06:59) Traveler: what are factual reports?
(2009-07-30 18:07:30) Traveler: Isabell asks where did they come from
(2009-07-30 18:07:46) Ning = *******: these two came from Peter J. Brown
(2009-07-30 18:08:02) Ning = *******: creator of The Craft ning site
(2009-07-30 18:08:51) Traveler: Iwas on that site less than 24 hours and asked if he wanted the practitioner pictures whe he responed ok to
(2009-07-30 18:09:00) Ning = *******: I honestly thing he is full of shit!
(2009-07-30 18:09:24) Traveler: that is insulting to the shit
(2009-07-30 18:09:26) Ning = *******: think I mean
(2009-07-30 18:09:29) Ning = *******: :)
(2009-07-30 18:09:33) Ning = *******: true
(2009-07-30 18:09:34) Traveler: nope
(2009-07-30 18:10:23) Ning = *******: he is arrogant in his attitude though and as far as I'M concerned, he is heading for a fall
(2009-07-30 18:10:59) Traveler: wait till I get this all placed into one place.
(2009-07-30 18:14:07) Traveler: Do you think he would be awoken when he finds the Artist site?
(2009-07-30 18:14:49) Ning = *******: I have no idea. I think I'm about to be banned from THIS site though!
(2009-07-30 18:14:56) Ning = *******: My latest rebuttal:
(2009-07-30 18:15:00) Ning = *******: You claimed I had no right to know the situation because I am not a ning creator but I AM so I DO have the right to know what is going on. I HAVE asked Ning about this and I promise you I will look into it thoroughly. He has been singled out without a SHRED of proof other than people don't know like profile while someone who has STALKED no less than TWO women on the ning site is allowed to continue with his activities! You may ban me if you will. I care not! I was asking NICELY but have only gotten derision and arrogance in return. I WILL get to the bottom of this and if there IS something that he has done wrong, then I will apolegize but if there is NOT, then I suggest you learn humility.
(2009-07-30 18:15:46) Ning = *******: I ask you to include THIS as well with your other notes, just so one of us has them all. :D
(2009-07-30 18:16:00) Traveler: fang and claw I need you to sic people more he he he
(2009-07-30 18:16:08) Ning = *******: LOL
(2009-07-30 18:16:11) Ning = *******: bows
(2009-07-30 18:16:17) Ning = *******: brb

Ok this is as now for it ms tlikely will continue you decide am I what they accuse me of was this done incorrectly do people read and jump to worse ideas do other read and have no clue up what they have been asked. Many thing no pointing no saying bad members. This is what has been sent and stored. Let it stand as is. I am letting people know what has happened and I do. I do not hide I face.

Wow look at what happened when asked further of this matter: (2009-07-30 18:57:49) You are not privy to the information You are not a member of the Conglomeration of site owners and admin.'s. Nor an admin., here. There are reports on you, also for the same thing, it comes from a member of Wiccan Togther and Ning itself. THIS MATTER IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS I SAID, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PROFILE, AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS SIIE, IF YOU LIKE? I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU, YOU ARE BLATANTLY BEING DIREPECTFUL AND IT IS NOTED, AND YOUR MESSAGE HAVE BEN SENT TO NING, AND THE CONGLOMERATION. YOU KEEP SAYING ITS BECAUSE OF THE BDSM ON HIS PROFITE, I HAVE COSISTANTLY TOLD YOU THAT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! YOU WILL NOT LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! Blessed be Your Path, PETER PS. YES I'M YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Greetings my friend‏
From: Lady Ks (Admin) ([e-mail])
Sent: Sun 10/18/09 5:46 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Ks (Admin) has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON

I keep my promises, I was asked to Admin and help her. Cat took the Head Admins job here and Indiigo has help now. She wants the community. I can bow out soon. I do not know why Ning allows him to stay on. He is trouble and is constantly writing them about someone or a community with no proof except is own dullisions. I guess Ning could care less. Thats why I have bought Mysticmoons.org so I can break away from Ning.
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:31:15 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Lady Ks (Admin)
>
> I am glad he is known of. If you don't want the site then way have it exist? Yes helping a friend is a good thing to do. But a line needs to be drawn. If that friend can not care and feed for a site then either take the knowledge to a place that can use it and let the site go. Or give a time of if this does not then it goes way.
>
> He may be known in the Ningverse but he still is allowed to carry power and use his influences as well. If he is so well known why is he still allowed to be put in charge?
>
> Yes it is good Cat got justification and the action was hers to enjoy.
>
> Yes I red the letter and it seems had had a field day writing it to him.

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Re: A banned member has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON‏
From: [e-mail]
Sent: Sun 10/18/09 1:58 AM
To: [e-mail]
No problem.....Anytime
Indiigo

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Drago
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 6:42 pm
Subject: RE: A banned member has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON

This issue has been resolved and taken care of. Thank you for your willingness to find out about it. Reference with Lady Ks & Cat.

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Re: A banned member has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON‏
From: [e-mail]
Sent: Sun 10/18/09 12:15 AM
To: [e-mail]
I don't know, but I will find out

Indiigo

In a message dated 10/17/2009 1:25:35 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [e-mail] writes:

A banned member has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON. Traveler ([e-mail]) writes:

OK so what am I have done today to have caused this action?

Please let me know. And then lets find if it is truth or something simple.

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

heh‏
From: Lady Ks (Admin) ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 10/17/09 9:05 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Ks (Admin) has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON

Their fine. You took of the part that could nor should not be read by teenagers. I do not censor. You could come to Mysticmoons again. Your parchments are fine. I understand. Were on alot of the same communities and been friends from back in the WT days.
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:01:34 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Lady Ks (Admin)
>
> I have and know many have been swayed by him. And also many do as he has done read things assumed and not asked upon me of them.
>
> Even the family sites want to be the parents for the world. Which takes the parenting from those who should do so. My parchments upon my profile are less then many places one can find on the Internet. And if one asks they will find that the ways and meanings of them are no the social standard stereotypic they think.

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Greetings my friend‏
From: Lady Ks (Admin) ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 10/17/09 9:02 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Ks (Admin) has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON

I know all about him...I don't want this site! I came to help my friend who then ditched me. I dumped it. I am angry, she used me and I dont like it.

He is known all thru Ning... trust that..

Cat banned him from here...when he writes to find out why, I told her to answer him and tell him he is a pedifile, he steals and someone said he was handing out kiddie porn! She needed to find closure. He hurt her and I made sure she got her justice. You shall have yours too..

did you read the letter I sent you?
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:50:37 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Lady Ks (Admin)
>
> There is a four site group that follows hi quite well I have found. And there is where this all started from.
>
> I know of what he called Cat, she was trying to find things out for me and that is what happed.
>
> I guess you did not ask around of him before you put him in charge then.
>
> The support is good but perhaps a word or two would make me think more better of things.
>
> On my Hearth site is a blog with all of the trail of this upon it. And it is a interesting read.
>
> I will see how time unfolds and reveals to me your words. For many sites have followed him and few have asked of me or looked to find of things about me. I still wait to find of things for most of them and the silence continues from most of them. It is frustration of the non communication of the many sites that gets me

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

heh‏
From: Lady Ks (Admin) ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 10/17/09 8:42 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Ks (Admin) has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON

LMAO...go read your e-mail...CACKLES
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:21:51 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Lady Ks (Admin)
>
> Some times asking is goo he does not do so nor have ever found truth. He is more of the judge sentence and execute with out witness or finding the other side of the coin or truth.

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Fwd: MADAM BRENDA....letter to peter j brown‏
From: [e-mail]
Sent: Sat 10/17/09 8:41 PM
To: [e-mail]



From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Sent: 8/16/2009 11:56:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: MADAM BRENDA


MADAM BRENDA *ADMIN* has sent you a message on The Pagan Directory

HAHAHA HELLO YOU SLIMY PIECE OF SHIT!!! YOU THINK YOUR SO SMART DONT YOU? WELL LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU!! IN THE GOOD OLD U.S.A THERE IS A THING CALLED HARRASMENT AND SLANDER. I UNLIKE YOU DO HAVE PROOF FOR MY CASE AGAINST YOU. SO BY THE TIME IM THREW WITH YOU. YOUR NAME IS GOING TO BE KNOWN NET WIDE FOR THE LIEING SLIMY PEICE OF SHIT THAT YOU ARE!!! YOU HAVE HARRASSED ME AND KARA AND SLANDERED BOTH OUR NAMES ALSO SLANDERED HER SITE. YOU THOUGHT THAT YOU WOULD SPREAD YOUR LIES AND WOULD CAUSE MY WORLD TO CRUMBLE. ALL YOU DID WAS START YOU KARMA COMING BACK ON YOU. THE ONLY SITE IVE BEEN BANNED FROM WAS YOURS. THE REST HAVE BEEN ALERTED TO YOUR LIES AND ARE ALREADY AWARE OF YOU. THEY STAND BEHIND ME 100% BECAUSE IM NOT A TROUBLE MAKEING, ATTENTION SEEKING, RETARTED, WORTHLESS, SCUM SUCKING PIG LIKE YOU ARE!!! HAHAHAHA AND IN CASE YOU DONT KNOW YOU WILL NEVER GET ON THIS SITE AS LONG AS IM ADMIN.OH AND KISS MY ASS!!!

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

heh‏
From: Lady Ks (Admin) ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 10/17/09 8:37 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Ks (Admin) has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON

Peter has alot of mental health issues. I don't think he understads alot. He has no proof on madame brenda either, I will forward the letter she wrote to him when he tried to join The Pagan Directory and she is the Admin there. Too funny! I saved it. Apparently for you! I cannot understand why Ning has not shut him down. he rambles on with nothing to back him up. Yesterday he banned a member from The Craft because he said he researched Druids and this man was false! No kidding! banned him...just like that. I think folks joined there just to see whats going on. There is never anyone on or any activity. I use his bulliten to invite his members to here and Mysticmoons. Goes right over his head. He listens to me tho. Your good name is intact. Now his on the other hand...is not. I will send you the letter. I still have the right e-mail for you I believe.
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:21:51 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Lady Ks (Admin)
>
> Some times asking is goo he does not do so nor have ever found truth. He is more of the judge sentence and execute with out witness or finding the other side of the coin or truth.

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

Greetings my friend‏
From: Lady Ks (Admin) ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 10/17/09 8:30 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Ks (Admin) has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON

Honey, he has no proof because you never did anything. No one follows him and no one that I know believes him. This is a Dark Arts group 18 and over. He can't censor anything here. Cat will get him...he called her a pedafile..she needs this. He wont see anything. I had this place dumped on me. I figured I would dump it on Peter...not one of my smartest moves. Indiigo said she would take it. So...the wait is on our Cat. She will come....you have more support and friends that you could ever imagine. That you can take to the bank!

BB
KellySue
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:18:47 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Lady Ks (Admin)
>
> When the message came in 4 days ago of Peter in charge I knew the timer was set it took four days. I was hoping of questions if he started his falseness first but that did not happen. Two things if you can. The first the proof that he says he has has never been seen or shown of this would be good to know. Second how many sites and what are they that blindly believe and follow him like some bleesed Saint?

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

heh‏
From: Lady Ks (Admin) ([e-mail])
Sent: Sat 10/17/09 8:00 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Lady Ks (Admin) has sent you a message on HECATE'S CAULDRON

Peter J Brown is on.... if he bans you.. message me and I will lift it. Cat wants to ban him so I sent her a message to get over here... lil ant fart!