A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

A question asked because of action taken responses and still the wrong is being found of. Three sides of a coin which will you see

This is my and the responses from the action of banned from sites. People who have answered my asking if they knew of things. And messages back and forth. Names and sites have been removed to not point or give directions time and dates are left to see the flow of it. The bottom line is none but a few of the ‘befriended’ in the Ningverse have typed to me to ask and have answers given.

Many it seems closed their minds and do not want to ask or learn difference of social stereotypical ideas and the actually of one person. Below you will find some of the messages written to me from others. Some are those who this action has been taken by. Others finding things out and the general concern of why and how come.

I asked of a banning massage sent to me. It referenced other sites I am on other adim and others talked to. But because of that asking to find if anyone knew of it or was part of it. I have been banned off three more sites. And it seems several people do not read things for they thought is was a personal attack or I was banning them or threatening to or accusing them. Which it was not just a asking of help to know where this came from and if any knew of it.

No I did what I do ask if any one knew of or about things. And found only three that had an idea. But got lots of do not know or what or why.

Guess that does not work in the Ningverse. Instead all just fly off to their own separate corners and can type anything they want of any one they do not agree with them and make it as if correct.

Instead of typing me asking me and learning the of me.

Judged sentenced and executing of sentence commenced.


(2009-07-30 17:46:57) Ning = *******: you there? sorry it took so long to get back!
(2009-07-30 17:47:05) Ning = *******: I have a response from Peter know it all!
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Ning = *******: He said the following:
(2009-07-30 17:47:13) Traveler: you do what is need
(2009-07-30 17:47:17) Ning = *******: Merry Meet.,
We have facts from other sites as well as ours. You are not an admin or a creator of a site. So we can not share the info with you. You can contact Ning, they have factual reports on him. So its not just us. You may leave the site if you want, We owe you no explanation on this. His profile was fine. He was caught spamming kiddies porn, on several sites, not just ours.Blessed Be your path Peter I consider this matter closed. He was given an explanation, why he was banned from me, several admin's, and other sites that banned him. We can't help that he ignores these messages
(2009-07-30 17:48:04) Traveler: now that is news to me. Don't you have a site?
(2009-07-30 17:48:11) Ning = *******: yes I do
(2009-07-30 17:48:15) Ning = *******: apparently, asshole doesn't REALIZE that!
(2009-07-30 17:49:06) Traveler: um how does one get a copy of the ning thing? as site person request it?
(2009-07-30 17:50:21) Ning = *******: not sure. looking into it now
(2009-07-30 17:51:09) Traveler: ok then and how does one cautch one doing this? and how proves it is the person there id theft? cut paste use some one profile?
(2009-07-30 17:52:39) Traveler: never asked me of this nor has anyone ever typed of this before
(2009-07-30 17:53:24) Ning = *******: well, I have the HELP tab open now for Ning. I am about to check it out.
(2009-07-30 17:53:53) Traveler: sick um
17:56
(2009-07-30 17:59:18) Ning = *******: this is what I have said to the Ning Helpdesk:
(2009-07-30 17:59:23) Ning = *******: I have been informed that several ning administrators and creators have banned a person going by the name of Traveler. They have attacked him without cause and accuse him of all sorts of things that he is innocent of. I have had NO trouble with this person. He is actually QUITE intelligent and has alot to offer as a member. He is being banned without warning, not given the chance to defend himself, and now Peter J. Brown, who has accused ME of not being a site creator and therefore "unworthy" of being given information on WHYthis man was banned, has accused Traveler of child porn, which he has told me he is NOT into in the least. He is not being given fair treatment and I, as a site creator, would like to know WHY he has been singled out like this! I should like one of you to get in touch with me AND Traveler so that his side of the story can be revealed and this persecution be stopped! I am FURIOUS that this is going on at a site that up until now I have had quite a great time on! I talk to Traveler every day and know him to NOT be the kind of person Peter has accused him of! I want this to be handled in as direct a way as possible! Thank you. *******
(2009-07-30 18:00:46) Traveler: I bow my head and softly thank you little one
(2009-07-30 18:01:01) Ning = *******: bows back You are quite welcome!
(2009-07-30 18:01:16) Ning = *******: I mean what I say, as well! I am APPALLED that this is going on!
(2009-07-30 18:01:39) Traveler: I am currently copy past the messages that I have upon this.
(2009-07-30 18:02:09) Traveler: I have been accused of things before but nothing like this
(2009-07-30 18:02:23) Traveler: THen I could walk up and face the person
(2009-07-30 18:02:40) Traveler: Here there is not I can do to do so.
(2009-07-30 18:04:27) Ning = *******: add this:
(2009-07-30 18:04:31) Ning = *******: You are not privy to any complaints, or otherwise.
I have told you its had nothing to do with his profile at all! one of best friends is into BDSM, and I still love her. We won't to answer your questions, but we respect the privacy of the sites and members, with factual complaints him, also from ning itself. Again, I say it had nothing to do with his profile!!!!! Blessed Be,
(2009-07-30 18:04:50) Traveler: reading to Isabell will get here
(2009-07-30 18:06:17) Ning = *******: Aparently, he is saying NIng has "factual reports" on you!
(2009-07-30 18:06:59) Traveler: what are factual reports?
(2009-07-30 18:07:30) Traveler: Isabell asks where did they come from
(2009-07-30 18:07:46) Ning = *******: these two came from Peter J. Brown
(2009-07-30 18:08:02) Ning = *******: creator of The Craft ning site
(2009-07-30 18:08:51) Traveler: Iwas on that site less than 24 hours and asked if he wanted the practitioner pictures whe he responed ok to
(2009-07-30 18:09:00) Ning = *******: I honestly thing he is full of shit!
(2009-07-30 18:09:24) Traveler: that is insulting to the shit
(2009-07-30 18:09:26) Ning = *******: think I mean
(2009-07-30 18:09:29) Ning = *******: :)
(2009-07-30 18:09:33) Ning = *******: true
(2009-07-30 18:09:34) Traveler: nope
(2009-07-30 18:10:23) Ning = *******: he is arrogant in his attitude though and as far as I'M concerned, he is heading for a fall
(2009-07-30 18:10:59) Traveler: wait till I get this all placed into one place.
(2009-07-30 18:14:07) Traveler: Do you think he would be awoken when he finds the Artist site?
(2009-07-30 18:14:49) Ning = *******: I have no idea. I think I'm about to be banned from THIS site though!
(2009-07-30 18:14:56) Ning = *******: My latest rebuttal:
(2009-07-30 18:15:00) Ning = *******: You claimed I had no right to know the situation because I am not a ning creator but I AM so I DO have the right to know what is going on. I HAVE asked Ning about this and I promise you I will look into it thoroughly. He has been singled out without a SHRED of proof other than people don't know like profile while someone who has STALKED no less than TWO women on the ning site is allowed to continue with his activities! You may ban me if you will. I care not! I was asking NICELY but have only gotten derision and arrogance in return. I WILL get to the bottom of this and if there IS something that he has done wrong, then I will apolegize but if there is NOT, then I suggest you learn humility.
(2009-07-30 18:15:46) Ning = *******: I ask you to include THIS as well with your other notes, just so one of us has them all. :D
(2009-07-30 18:16:00) Traveler: fang and claw I need you to sic people more he he he
(2009-07-30 18:16:08) Ning = *******: LOL
(2009-07-30 18:16:11) Ning = *******: bows
(2009-07-30 18:16:17) Ning = *******: brb

Ok this is as now for it ms tlikely will continue you decide am I what they accuse me of was this done incorrectly do people read and jump to worse ideas do other read and have no clue up what they have been asked. Many thing no pointing no saying bad members. This is what has been sent and stored. Let it stand as is. I am letting people know what has happened and I do. I do not hide I face.

Wow look at what happened when asked further of this matter: (2009-07-30 18:57:49) You are not privy to the information You are not a member of the Conglomeration of site owners and admin.'s. Nor an admin., here. There are reports on you, also for the same thing, it comes from a member of Wiccan Togther and Ning itself. THIS MATTER IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS I SAID, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PROFILE, AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS SIIE, IF YOU LIKE? I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU, YOU ARE BLATANTLY BEING DIREPECTFUL AND IT IS NOTED, AND YOUR MESSAGE HAVE BEN SENT TO NING, AND THE CONGLOMERATION. YOU KEEP SAYING ITS BECAUSE OF THE BDSM ON HIS PROFITE, I HAVE COSISTANTLY TOLD YOU THAT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! YOU WILL NOT LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! Blessed be Your Path, PETER PS. YES I'M YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rev. Allen M. Drago ~ Traveler]

your blog post and profile page‏
From: P Blue Frost ([e-mail])
Sent: Sun 8/02/09 2:45 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

P Blue Frost has sent you a message on Magical World of Wonder

I dont care.. I find it offensive.. and its my group. so i have final say.. and if you dont like it your free to be on your way to a my understanding group
> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:23:05 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: P Blue Frost
>
> And yet I do not look for women, I do not need to for Isabell is my Companion and she is plenty to deal with. I do not do what I have been accused of and it does not seem that any one gets that. My profile words are the common ones I use. As a whom I am I am a practitioner, I am a artist, I do not have a permanent home because of my work, I do practice a style of BDFSM which is the older mind set and discipline of ways. And apply it to apprenticeships when they travel learning of the old ways making things and traveling from show to show. Why would I want to look for women here? I came here to see what knowledge and ideas are posted and found. Nothing more. I standardized my profile in the ningverse for to me that was the correct thing to do other then having no answers or different ones in all places. So does that explain further or still don't care?
> > Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:04:21 +0000
> > From: P Blue Frost
> > To: Traveler
> >
> > Thank you for brining your page to my attention..
> > I dont appreciate you using my group to look for women.. MWW IS NOT A DATE GROUP AND YOU WILL REMOVE THAT INFORMATION OR YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM HERE TOO.. MWW is an over 18 group.. but what you have i find offensive.. If you want to call it closed minded i dont care.. MWW is my group and I find it offensive and I and telling you to remove it or I will remove it for you (ie a ban) I am not going to sit and debate with you about this.. it is not an option.. I have final say... I am giving you a take it or leave it choice I also do not appreciate you bringing your personal war to my group..


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Any one know of this or whom is those that decied this?‏
From: moondancer ([e-mail])
Sent: Sun 8/02/09 5:03 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

moondancer has sent you a message on Wicca Online Community For Pagans and Wiccans

I received this forwarded email and didnt understand it-at first. I went to check out the other wiccan site and was highly disappointed. The PG-16 lead is ridiculous- 1st I am an adult and think like one(talk like one) and 2nd shouldn't it be an adult decission about what religion you are? I am a devout wiccan-but teach my children all religions then let them decide after they've explored everything(and that takes time) I have no desire to be censored in my chosen religion and feel freedom on wiccantogether. Whoever sent this has way too much time on their hands and is too close-minded to be a wiccan; if you ask me. I'd ignore the weak, simpleminded trife who's sayin this shit- and carry-on the good work I've seen from you. Blessed Be!!!!!!
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:26:38 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Adrianne, Barbara (Babs), bigdoghammerhead, BlueFrost, Branwen Ravenwolf, Brigit Aradiawolf, bunny, Camilla..., Cat, Caysi McQuillan, Christine, colourofmagick, Cordelia, Corinna Corbett, Cynthia Lilith, DONNAMARIE, Earthdaughter13, Ellie, Emalit Jean, Fargo-Jessica, Father JP Vanir, Hedgewitch, IndigoMorningstar, Kalaiya, Kara, Kashiel, konzen, Krystalla, LadyEni(A_Nah), Lady Kat, Lady Squid, L u k e, Maria Tofan, moondancer, Nate, Night Wind, Nyx_DarkSky, Pittietatt, porcelain, PRINCESS GOTHICKA, Rain, Roos, rushingdragon, star nightshade..., starstuff45, Teresa, Twist, Twylyte, Vampyr Kiss, WILDFIREWITCH63, witchyone, Witchy Woman, wolfwm59
>
> From: PETER J BROWN ([e-mail])
> Sent: Wed 7/29/09 12:49 AM
> To: Traveler ([e-mail])
> Meery Meet,
> Your profile was obscene, when you scroll down, on your profile.
> I am aware that you have bee banned from several sites, because of your behavior
> You spam people with sexual things, on all the sites, you are a member of, and those sites you were banned from, for the same behavior.
> I do know what BDSM and BGFSM means.
> You disgrace all weman.
> You have been reported to Ning

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Your question‏
From: Adrienne Arrington ([e-mail])
Sent: Mon 8/03/09 12:09 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Adrienne Arrington has sent you a message on Any Witch Way

I looked over teh response that you were given about your profile and I am not sure what they had a problem with. if your profile is anything like the one you have on AWW I can't imagine what they were so distressed about. I understand that bdsm is not for everyone and even in the scene people have vastly differrent ideas of what is a limit. Still perhaps they were unhappy that you simply admitted to what you do and are. Honesty is not always well recived particularly if the subject matter is considered taboo. I spent a long period of time in a very active and healthy bdsm lifestyle, I wouldn't change my experiences for the world. but I also was taught by someone who respected the old ways of doing things. I don't think newer people get that now. anyway. I'm sorry I could not be of much help otherwise. perhaps this person just wanted to feel powerful and indignant.

adrienne

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Comment by Traveler on August 3, 2009 at 4:51pm
Delete Comment I ask id any one know of this and the people that are among the ningverse that are dong it. I am falsely accused and instead of innocent before the world. It seems that on is guilty and must defend one's name. The message hints at other sites I am one other admin and other people. I asked where they are whom they are and does anyone know any thing of these. I am not accusing or pointing at any one only trying to find the truth and the correction of an incorrect action. I do not consider any ning site a dating site for I have no need of that idea with a Companion of 10 years. What I do rather is stand and ask of to find out of not bury my head in the sand and hope this goes away. With a young son this if pushed could in danger me of losing him and that will really make someone not like me. So no pointing asking for the help of for the finding out of. Or did not you miss the asking and just focus on the incorrect and again try to make me out as what I am not?

wraiths Comment by wraiths on August 3, 2009 at 12:55pm
Delete Comment and?????
what can i do to help you with theses other sites?
nothing, but i dont want any accusations being pointed at you...... this is the first and final warning.... NO NEED FOR ANY HINT OF PEDO/MICHEAL JACKSON SHIT ON MY SITE...
THIS IS NOT A DATING OR SOME PERVERSE SITE...
WRAITHS

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The post was not appropriate‏
From: Gia Volterra de Saulnier ([e-mail])
Sent: Tue 8/04/09 9:45 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

Gia Volterra de Saulnier has sent you a message on RenaissancePerformers

Hi Traveler,

Since I am trying very hard to keep Renaissance Performers Ning page just family friendly, the post that you wrote was deleted as it had pertained to language that was of a rather sexual nature.

This is your first warning. I know you may have been upset about the other site, but remember that you are sharing your views with the rest of the community that might be offended in some way with the language you are using. It also affects me, as it does go viral online and will stay online, which I am trying very hard NOT to do.

I have no problem with you doing this in your own personal life, but please do not share this type of post again.

Thank you for your understanding,

Gia

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ANy one know of this‏
From: slayercat ([e-mail])
Sent: Wed 8/05/09 9:26 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

slayercat has sent you a message on The House Of Shadow's Vampire Community

hey buddy ! hey you know what ? I think that you did the right thing in sending to everyone that you know this message ! I think that's responsible and intelligent ! I think that's right to ask questions . To me, this behavior denotes a conscious mind with good intentions . The only way to know something is to ask . It's clear and precise without ambiguity. I like it that way : straight to the goal ! that's fair ! Like poeple who are themselves without mask . In my opinion, it's not easy to show one trueself, it demands courage and humility but you can be sure that people who likes you as you are, are true to you. They like the true you, not the mask...that's the good side of the medail !
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:45:51 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: Adrianne, Allen Greenfield, ashleyrachel b..., Bliden, Bloodlock aka M..., Blue Frost, Branwen Ravenwolf, Brian Parker, Witchy Lily, Camilla, Cat, Cordelia, Crystalis DeCav..., cynthia, Cynthia, DarkLight, DewaynesDarla, Fargo-Jessica, Father JP Chrst..., slayercat, Hitman Wolf, W, konzen, Lady of Darkness, Little Vixen, Mikhiel Karten, Nate, Nicou James, Persephone, PRINCESS ROSEANNA, purplerose, RAVENBLACK, robin, Sabastian DeCav..., Sandra, sandy, Shyloh, Sol Janus, Vampiress, Vamp-King.
>
> (2009-07-28 23:02:49) Rev Allen M Drago of Ask For IT: Meery Meet,
> Your profile was obscene, when you scroll down, on your profile.
> I am aware that you have bee banned from several sites, because of your behavior
> You spam people with sexual things, on all the sites, you are a member of, and those sites you were banned from, for the same behavior.
> I do know what BDSM and BGFSM means.
> You disgrace all weman.
> You have been reported to Ning, from me, and other site admin.'s and creators.
> We got together and discussed this.
> Go join WiccanTogether, they probably put up with your stuff.
> 99% of us consider WiccanTogether, a disgrace to Wicca,
> They are all about numbers, not real content.
> You probably would fit in

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ANy one know of this‏
From: slayercat ([e-mail])
Sent: Thu 8/06/09 12:24 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

slayercat has sent you a message on The House Of Shadow's Vampire Community

well my dear let me tell you a secret ! It's happen to me too ! I also receive a message saying that poeple with sexual graphics or related will be banned. At first, I was so upset and confuse because I thought that it was only me who had this warning. I receive this warning 2 times from the same site that was my favorite at that time. I think to myself, well everybody put sex pictures everywhere so where are they pointing at me solely ? I was so mad that I leave the site regrettfull without saying a word. You got the courage to talk, I didn't....and most of all I am an admin of another site so I couldn't tell you not doing something that I myself do ! it's a non-sense. I remember now seing your name on an admin chat room but I din't even read it. I decided to not take part of this and I wanted to hear it from you. I didn't like it to see other admin in my team talking about you so I just saw your name+another admin who ask you to....don't know the end because I didn'T want to know. I presumed that it was related with sex but didn't know much. I like to be in peace with myself and others so I deleted all my sexy comments and graphics everywhere on ningsite. Didn't want to have problems anymore. That's the reason why I can understand you ! I was very happy when the owner of the site invite me to join again where I had left without a word. But now, I don't take chances anymore: no sex at all. It's radical but that way I can enjoy my stay on the site without problems !
> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:32:30 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: slayercat
>
> Your words are well taken & better than other 75% I have gotten. So far 3 sites have banned for asking. Several have threatened in doing so for asking of. Some have deleted or made me delete the blog with the: it is not of this site not happen in this site therefore it needs not & will not be made to be seen in the site. One site made me put profile on private. One made me or banning remove the parchments from the common profil

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HI SWEETHEART !!! GOOD TO SEE YOU.......LMAO‏
From: WIZARD ([e-mail])
Sent: Thu 8/06/09 1:49 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

WIZARD has sent you a message on Beneath The Willow Tree

if you don't sit the fuck down, you will be out of here to !!!!! you are fucking with the wrong person!!!
> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:05:29 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: WIZARD
>
> Your words are short and as the other 75% I have gotten. So far 3 sites have banned for asking. Several have threatened in doing so for asking of. Some have deleted or made me delete the blog with the: it is not of this site not happen in this site therefore it needs not & will not be made to be seen in the site. One site made me put profile on private. One made me or banning remove the parchments from the common profile set up. So far nothing has been shown as the proof that was claimed to have had, & no proof of a group of sites admin or people. The person pointing the final finger & worst accusations has been typed of as on who also causes trouble & has not a truth track record behind them. I still wait for Ning Help to send me the proof stated that they have. The amount of support is about 25%. Two have written messages upon this to Ning & two to him who points as well. One person acted as an Ambassadress for one site & people for they were not sure of this issue. A few read partly & took it personally & thought I was pointing at them or threatened them in some way. Some just think it a big joke. So there is what so far has become in a week & waiting still continues for truth of the issue within the ningverse.
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why was I send someone to approve????‏
From: GYPSY ([e-mail])
Sent: Thu 8/06/09 8:51 PM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

GYPSY has sent you a message on Warrior Witches

a mystery indeed is that your site ? how are you after taking all the bs hits from others? i took a few big ones myself .. just now getting a little back ..i think these kinda idiots are just jealous they even tried to take my ning id .. but as you see ...
> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:28:13 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: GYPSY
>
> Well I guess we are both at a loss for answers. I have no clue on how or what of approval. SO sorry to type you are on your own. IF anything else I can do ask I will let you know if I can.
>
> Enjoy your mystery, don't know any other way to put it.
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> myspace.com/dragoplusisabell facebook.com/drago.isabell
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> TravelerinBDFSM can be found in aol/aim * hotmail* identi.ca * live * twitter * yahoo
> Travelingraggyman can be found in gmail * icq * Skype
>
> Hearth site for people to come & join us
>
Visit Traveling within the World
> > Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:23:24 +0000 > > From: GYPSY
> > To: Traveler
> >
> > that is so strange !!! and i will say i have no clue .. and better yet it is not an invite only group !!?? any ideas on how i can find out ? i guess maybe just approve them all 4 now while i seek an answer for you ..
> > > Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:23:57 +0000
> > > From: Traveler
> > > To: GYPSY
> > >
> > > Dancing Fingers has requested to join Rainbow Warrior Witches on Warrior Witches‏
> > > From: Dancing Fingers (dasaxgirl1459@gm

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just to start with‏
From: TwistedWillow ([e-mail])
Sent: Fri 8/07/09 12:34 AM
To: Traveler ([e-mail])

TwistedWillow has sent you a message on Beneath The Willow Tree

What the hell is this?? Who? Why? What?????
> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:59:46 +0000
> From: Traveler
> To: TwistedWillow
>
> sent you a message on Beneath The Willow Tree
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> if you don't sit the fuck down, you will be out of here to !!!!! you are fucking with the wrong person!!!
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> there is more I would like to enlighten you to this person's other two messages along with my responses. But I can't seem to forward till one is befriended to me.
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> D.
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> TravelerinBDFSM can be found in aol/aim * hotmail* identi.ca * live * twitter * yahoo
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